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"Pope Leo's Message for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees"...does anyone here find fault with

Author: TyroneIrish  (25541 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:21 am on Aug 16, 2026
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what Pope Leo is saying?

Link: https://www.americamagazine.org/speeches/2026/08/14/pope-leo-message-world-day-migrants-refugees/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Pope%20Leo%20calls%20on%20priests%20to%20%20respect%20%20the%20post-Vatican%20II%20liturgies%20in%20ne

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Pope Leo does not live in the real world.

Author: Curly1918  (18247 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 3:15 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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Like academics and entertainers… he’s out of touch.

Link: https://youtu.be/c5MgI7zpHKs?is=ExvD1zB8LXALO0Mq

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He spent something like 30 years ministering to the poor in Peru…that’s the “Real World”, Curly…

Author: TyroneIrish  (25541 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:53 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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Leo's White Sox are 4 1/2 games up in first place so he's got that going for him. Not too shabby.

Author: ELP  (11820 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)
Posted at 4:55 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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THIS!

Author: Frankx  (6549 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)
Posted at 3:19 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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Pope is not just wrong, he is deceiving. There is no such a thing as child migration. It is family

Author: Eli  (9848 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:02 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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migration led by adults. We do have child smuggling which is a different issue.

Pope also is wrong on migration in general. He messed up modern migration with traditional migration. Yes, traditional migration is primarily due to war and natural disasters like famine. But they are no longer the primary case in modern migration. If they still happened that’s because of bad policy. For example, Syria civil war and Libya civil war caused 4 millions migrants and refugees that’s because neocon helped create Syria civil war and Libya civil war with the goal “Assad has to go” and “Gaddafi has to go”.

Modern migration is primary economic migration, assisted by modern transportation and technology which make migration easier. For example, majority of illegal immigrants crossing US-Mexico border have smart phones, which would be deemed as luxurious group of people 25 years ago.

Since it is economic migration, it has to be subject to economic laws (demand and supply, merit based …). You even always said US economy needs migrants. But Pope didn’t talk about this primary reason at all. Humanitarian consideration is a secondary thing in modern migration. Also, since it’s family migration, it will bring a welfare issue to the hosting countries where welfare policies are primarily family based. If you claim, as you always do, our welfare is not good enough to our domestic citizens, how could you think that our welfare will handle welfare of large quantities of family migration? How could you agree with Pope? You can’t be right on both sides.


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You just hit on the problem Pope Leo is calling out…I.e. Humanity has become

Author: TyroneIrish  (25541 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:58 pm on Aug 16, 2026
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Secondary…and that’s not acceptable.

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I find practical fault with it

Author: MarkHarman  (7924 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:39 am on Aug 16, 2026
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Of course every person has worth and dignity. But from a practical point of view, he said there are millions of migrant children every year, and it's just not possible for developed nations to absorb this number annually.

He also called upon us as individuals to help. My wife and I are not in a financial position to take in a migrant family, but you certainly are. Do you currently have a migrant family living with you? Are you personally paying for hotel rooms for them?

Finally, I read your link against my previous policy, so as a courtesy, I'm linking again to Dr. Risch's paper so you can, in intellectual honesty, return the favor.


Link: Dr Risch paper


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