....when you are a govt employee who starts start telling everyone around you to stop using the govt server to communicate about govt business (govt research grant money wrt COVID 19) and move over to private gmail to circumvent public records laws (FOIA requests), then you are acting illegally and guilty as heck about hiding something that you don't want made public.

Innocent people don't do this. You also don't lie to congress about it when they ask if Fauci sent research grant money to China to help develop viruses like COVID 19 with Gain of Function Research. It al fits together as we see that Fauci and co were trying to hide their involvement in the development of COVID 19.

This is Fauci's senior aid...his top advisor who unlike his boss The High Sparrow Anthony Fauci, does not have a blanket pardon.

Guilty as hell. Max sentence please.

Anthony Fauci and his cadre, caused more harm to more people than any doctor in the history of the world. And it's not even close.
And when you wield the greatest power in research - US research grant money - it is easy to bring everyone into line. If you don't fall into line....well ask Dr Battacharya.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-fauci-adviser-pleads-guilty-conspiring-conceal-covid-19-records

This is from ABC reporter Terry Moran.

So, the government was censoring national news.

Insane. And illegal.

Imagine if Trump did this. Would Tyrone and Jim and conor support it?

Something tells me we will be hearing more. Will be fun to see how much longer it will be denied, before it is justified. (Jim will deny it forever, of course.)

from the Wuhan Lab...and if there was any "Leak" from the Lab, it would have originated naturally from another source and brought into the Lab for study.

If you find evidence that the Wuhan Lab overcame the obstacles noted in my link, be sure to present it to us ASAP....(not holding my breath).


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=297082

Most scientists thought it had to have come from the lab due to the furin cleavage site, but in the end the Great Fauchino won out to spin that it came from a natural origin.

And again, this lab was specifically studying this exact same coronavirus; three lab workers almost certainly had Covid in 2019 and an emergency situation occurred at the lab then, so serious President Xi was notified.

Everyone on this board by now knows logic isn't your strong suit, but come on. The odds of the virus occurring naturally in the exact same city housing a lab studying the exact same virus that went all over the world is literally a billion to one.

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Link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3553

(f)Limitation on Applicability of Statutory Minimums in Certain Cases.
(4) "the defendant was not an organizer, leader, manager, or supervisor of others in the offense, as determined under the sentencing guidelines"

From just the emails we have from Moren that are in the media:

Morens: email
"This is sent from my gmail account. Please send all replies here To gmail... There are things I cant say except [Senior NIAID official 1] is aware and I have learned that there are ongoing efforts within NIH to steer through this with minimal damage to you, [Co-Conspirator 1], and colleagues, and to nih and niaid," Morens wrote to a colleague, according to emails released by the committee."

This email clearly shows that Morens organizing others in his criminal activity of trying to hide the information of Fauci's funding of the COVID 19 lab from FOIA discovery. He is the leader of the effort to get the others to engage in the illegal activity as well, and he is reassures them that they will be protected from their illegal activity to recruit them.

In another email, Morens says this:
"email, dated 4/21/21, Morens wrote, "I forgot to say, there is no worry about FOIAs. I can either send stuff to Tony on his private email or hand it to him at work or at his house. He is too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble.''

Here, Morens is managing another to commit crime by instructing them how. He also did this as a follow up because he forgot to mention it in a previous email, he was supervising others in the offense by following up to ensure the crime was done properly.


If Morens wants to tell the full truth and identify Fauci as the real leader who instructed him, then he would still be guilty of organizing and supervising the criminal effort of others.
Of course, I am not a lawyer, conor. But that is what I would justify giving a bigger sentence.
Now, will he get the max? Probably not. But I hope that he does, and that is why I said, "maximum sentence "please" in my post.

The feds have a LOT more evidence against Morens than the very few tidbits made public. i hope that they aggressively use it all .

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Then hang the Fauci pardon on Democrats neck in the next election, and justice still will not be complete, but the best outcome for the nation that we can hope for.

We know Fauci didn’t cause any deaths.

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You really never watched Fauci's testimony? You are totally unaware that he funded the covid facility to develop covid gain of function with US tax dollars when the same research was prohibited inside the US? Why do you think they were hiding their email traffic on this? You won't debate. You will just deny, and provide links that do not support your denial.

none...Prove me wrong. If you're confident in your position you should jump at the chance. I believe you're afraid of being shamed in this Forum...I'm not.

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Google NIH funding of GOF and see what you get.

It is irrefutable and indisputable.

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There has been a ton of discussion of this publicly. For Tyrone to act like the point is debatable is perhaps the most convincing argument that he cannot be convinced regardless of the evidence.

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for fake alternatives and not wearing masks so now you’re out there trying to rewrite history to demean Fauci without ever looking at yourselves being complicit in spreading trump’s falsehoods that killed hundreds of thousands and likely millions.

purposely "Downplaying" the risk of a disease that killed over 1M Americans...easy to see the Real Villain --> Donald J. Trump

…he knew then he had helped fund THE lab.

This wasn’t “science” at that critical time…it was CYA.

Reason he needed pardon going back to 2014.

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he lied and shut us down and squelched all who dared question him. And he put the country through hell.
Then, he fell in love with the adulation, fame, and money that it brought him.
A very weak man.

exception of China.

previously, virologists have seen no 'manufactured backbone' in the gnome of SARS-CoV-2...i.e. they don't believe the Wuhan Lab created COVID-19.

Here's an AI summary to help you...
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AI Overview
Yes, virologists and intelligence analysts view an accidental exposure to an already existing, naturally occurring virus as the most plausible scenario if a laboratory leak occurred. While the vast majority of the global scientific community maintains that the COVID-19 pandemic most likely began through natural zoonotic spillover at a wildlife market, those who evaluate or support the lab leak hypothesis generally distinguish between a virus that was genetically engineered and one that was collected from the wild. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Unengineered Lab Leak Concept
If the virus did originate from a laboratory setting, the prevailing consensus among experts is that it would have involved a naturally occurring pathogen that researchers had collected from wildlife (such as bats) for study, rather than a completely synthetic or deliberately manipulated bioweapon. [1, 2]

• Collection of Wild Viruses: The Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) routinely gathered and cataloged field samples of coronaviruses from remote bat caves to study pandemic risks. A lab-leak scenario under this premise suggests a researcher was accidentally infected while collecting samples in the field, or while handling an uncataloged, naturally occurring virus inside the facility. [1, 2]

• Absence of Engineering Signatures: Peer-reviewed genomic studies published in journals like Science and Cell have continuously shown that SARS-CoV-2 lacks any signs of man-made genetic manipulation or deliberate engineering. Features once heavily debated, such as the furin cleavage site, have been identified as commonplace among wild coronaviruses and are genetically suboptimal in a way that suggests natural evolution rather than human design

Disagreements Over Evidence
Even when considering the leak of an existing virus, the virology community remains deeply divided from certain intelligence sectors regarding the probability of this event: [1, 2]

• The Scientific Consensus: Most virologists argue against a lab leak of any kind. They highlight that the earliest recorded human cases in December 2019 formed a strict geographical cluster centered precisely around the Huanan Seafood Market, rather than the vicinity of the institute. Additionally, the simultaneous circulation of two distinct early viral lineages (Lineage A and B) strongly aligns with multiple natural spillovers from animals in a market setting, rather than a single escape point from a lab.[1, 2, 3, 4]

• Intelligence and Institutional Appraisals: Various U.S. government entities, including the FBI, the Energy Department, and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) have leaned toward low-to-moderate confidence assessments that a lab accident was the likely catalyst. However, these agencies similarly point to a laboratory safety failure or accidental exposure involving a naturally collected sample, rather than the creation of a novel engineered pathogen
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"On Feb. 1, 2020, Fauci describes a call with a dozen top infectious disease experts about features of the virus, including discussion of what's known as the furin cleavage site. He said two people on the call were "sure that this could occur naturally," but "the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible" and "we could not let this go."

On February 1st, 10 out of 12 experts felt DELIBERATE INSERTION WAS POSSIBLE. That's what Faci knew at that time. (He also knew that the first infection preceded the Wuhan Wet Market.)

At that time Fauci also knew that he had directed $600,000 to a lab in Wuhan that WAS doing GOF research. (Pardon conveniently goes back to the beginning of this funding.)

Yet he downplayed lab origin immediately after 83% of experts told him it was possible. Why?

Thanks, but your "AI Overview" doesn't address his motivations based on what he knew at the time.

It's why exchanges with you are pointless.

NOW disagree with that "Possibility" expressed back at the very beginning of COVID-19...but, just in case, I'll dig it up myself knowing your aversion to finding substance.

Guess what...didn't take that long to find...see the link...and acknowledge the "Possibility" among virologists for a "Manufacture SARS-CoV-2"...virtually non-existent.


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=297082

thought when he heard that Fauci kept a personal diary showing his own lies and contradictions to the public and to congress and that he had so much info on his govt cellphone after Moren went to all of this trouble to cover up Fauci's illegal deeds given
one of the emails he sent:

""I forgot to say, there is no worry about FOIAs. I can either send stuff to Tony on his private email or hand it to him at work or at his house. He is too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble.''

"Too smart". Lol. No. Just too corrupt.

and instead of admitting he'd been foolish, he tried to cover it up.

I think having to live with this is punishment enough.

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They aren't smart enough to figure this out on it's own.
Many of the rest of us put the pieces together rather quickly way back during COVID.
Now that his actions are being more clearly exposed and simplified (he fucked over everyone else - even children - in order to preserve his reputation and career, for the celebrity and adulation that he coveted, and to stay out of jail), they understand it, but they still initially refused to believe it because their media sources spin it.
Now that it cannot even be spun (Fauci just pleaded the 5th 111 times despite having a full pardon back to 2014 while his top aid just pleaded guilty to covering the evidence), their media messagers just appeals to their obsession: "Whatabout Trump!"

They are not a bright lot.

whaddabout trump - inject Clorox and or stick a UV lamp under your skin to fight C19 and back Herschel Walker’s claim “ an unnamed product that he asserted was "EPA-, FDA-approved" and would completely disinfect an individual upon walking through a building's door.”. Not to mention promoting Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine as effective treatments for C19.

That’s whaddabout trump. You people are the problem, even criminal.

Jim doesn't realize he is supporting your point.

Liberalism Rule #14: "You'll have to show me a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence".

I'm not sure how anyone can be dumb enough to deny it at this point.

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fit his crime other than utter and full exposure of his deeds and his motives.
This wasn't a guy just doing his best in difficult, uncharted times. This was a guy who created rules from thin air, shut down scientific debate, ruined careers, and devastated the American education system, devastated the US economy, forced many people to lose their jobs, caused the coercive physical assault of millions who did not want the new vaccine, and caused a huge surge in the national debt unnecessarily in order to hide his illegal involvement in the very creation of COVID 19 which itself also killed many people.

He's 86 and will be in court for the rest of his days. I do not seek revenge, just full exposure - and that is so that safeguards can be placed so that this never happens again. Also, the money that he greedily hoarded during that time should be drained as much as possible to help at least a miniscule portion of his victims.

The way he was able to get certain agency heads, researchers, and journals (who had to later recant their own publications) was disturbing. A big part of that was how much power he wielded nation wide with his research grant powers. Then, add to that the Dem governors and Dem apparatus support (teacher's unions, govt unions, etc) was also critical to him being able to do what he did.
This kind of power cannot be centralized for another down the road to exploit.

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business...I'm looking forward to hearing the motivation behind this. One thing for certain...Dr. Fauci saw COVID immediately as the deadly threat it turned out to be, and jumped into action from Day 1...in spite of headwinds from his Boss.

Baron's motivation for his posts is questionable at best.