Antibody treatment vs covid vaccine debate
I hear a lot of anti-vax or those wanting to sound like anti-vaxxers pushing the monoclonal antibody treatment when covid is contracted. Like the mRNA covid vaccine this is also a relatively new treatment, yet the anti-vax don't blink an eye at it. However wouldn't it make sense to get vaccinated to prevent the need for the antibody treatment? I'd rather get a shot to my arm then a 2 hour infusion treatment.
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don't be fooled by all these fake fact checking organizations that automatically quash any vaccine
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CNN said fact checking was no longer required in the Biden era.
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Believe we’re all relying on Psaki’s self-respect at this point…
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Jen Pnazi
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Our red tape is literally killing people
We had an effective treatment all along, HCQ + zinc + azithromycin, that the Great Fauchino influenced the CDC and FDA into saying it didn't work. Fine. I recognize that's not a widespread option because too many doctors bought into that b.s.
But the new Pfizer pill is working. It should be (and already should have been if not already so) immediately manufactured in mass quantities and handed out to any unvaccinated or non-natural-immunized person in a vulnerable demographic group. We cannot afford to wait for regulatory bureaucrats to go through their whole slow process.
How to tell a vaccinated person they've just been part of a medical experiment
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Too hard. This country now even couldn't tell such a simple thing: how many vaxxxed & unvaxxxed
What Eli said 🥇💯
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Hardly think there is such a debate on it. But assuming there is one, I can only speculate
that maybe those who prefer mAbs (Monoclonal Antibodies) over vaccine, assuming they are not cancer survivors or too weak whose body can't naturally generate Abs after vaccination, fear the jab instructs your body to produce the spike protein, the pathogen that you don't want to infect you in the first place with no OFF switch - this is the reason why so many people get covid after the first shot. This is the reason why I think the vaccinated is superspreader. UK and other countries separately list this group in their stat report. But US categorize these people as unvaxxxed who got covid. Anyway, back to your topic. To these people who prefer mAbs, maybe they think lab-made mAbs is just one time deal, comparing to no OFF switch vaccine. This is the only reason I can speculate why they have debate. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me to have such a debate. Could you give a link to such a debate?
Really don't know what your retort question is all about. Let me reiterate to be simple
Why would one choose a newer drug for another regarding covid especially when it's pre versus post treatment?
You got a straight, no nonsense answer from me. So, lets play BVZ Liberalism Rule #1
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Your problem really is with the lack of control you have over the so called "anti-vaxers".
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What ELP said 💯🥇
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20,000 deaths have been reported to the VAERS database due to the vaccines. Fauci isn't too keen
on studying these deaths, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of negative health outcomes that have also been reported. We don't hear about them because the media and the Great Faucino are drug salespersons. Meanwhile, the J&J shot is disfavored for causing clots. Further, I'd venture to say I'm in the top 3-5% of my age group metabolically, Covid isn't killing me or giving me a long term problem. So, no booster for me.
Be free, Questy.
Here is a great thing about the country we live in, you have that choice. You
Would rather have the vaccine and I wouldn’t. The big difference is, I support your choice but many on the left do no support mine, including many on this board.
Not standing for the national anthem is a harmless choice.
Remaining unvaccinated and/or not getting a booster is a choice that negativity impacts our nation.
Repurposed drugs are effective against all the variants, unlike the vaccines
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Thank you, Doctor!
The vax doesn't work. It's all about giving corporations and government more power and control
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And that is your opinion. Can you tell me the science behind why so many vaxxed
People are getting the virus? Can vaxxed people spread the virus? I would love to hear your science take on why this happening.
You clearly lack the wherewithal to process information that is not in dispute.
Fully vaccinated folks are substantially less likely to get infected and therefore less likely to spread the virus.
But, as Frank, Tyrone, and Chris have repeatedly emphasized, the key metric is hospitalization and ER visits. The capacity to treat infected folks in the hospital is finite (above and beyond every other medical emergency).
Only a very small % of fully vaccinated folks, infected with COVID, are being hospitalized.
Now, as the Headmaster of your demanding "home school" curriculum, can you muster up the rationale as to why it would be better if hospitals are not overrun with COVID cases?
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=47370
Immunity has been changed to "protection" in Newspeak
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Frank, Tyrone and Chris? Lol. Now thats some funny shit. I’ve taken whatever
Those morons say (along with you and Jim) and do the exact opposite. Things have worked out really well for me all throughout this virus. I’ll think I’ll continue down that path.
Wrong question and you know it.
Are vaxxed people dying of the virus, that is a resounding no. Don't tell me about people who had cancer either.
So you nor Conor will answer the questions. Trust the science, right?
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True story, try to discredit it
The original SARS/Cov-2 virus mapping is what the vaccine is based off. The vaccine is highly highly affected against it. Because the virus feasted off unvaccinated host after host the Delta variant could infect a vaccinated person, but with limited symptoms. Face it the Trump vaccine is affective.
In a mass psychosis, these measures are ritual
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I’ll pass. You continue to change the subject and deflect. You’re comfortable with
Your decision and so am I. It’s nice to have choices.
I'm not asking about choice. I'm asking for the decision making that goes into that choice.
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The vaccines don't prevent any virus and don't prevent the spread
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You feel better with the vaccine because you believe what you are being told about the
Virus. I don’t. I think it’s been over politicized and used to increase fear in the country. I’m not sure I will take the anti bodies and won’t know until my doctor advises me if I ever get the virus. I may have had it and have them already. But again, we have the right to choose. The right many want to take away from us.
Look at the professional sports leagues. All close to 100% vaxxed and the virus is causing havoc. Why would I get a shot if it doesn’t prevent me from catching what it’s supposed to block? Don’t give me that “reduce the symptoms line of shit” because a vaccine doesn’t reduce, it stops you from getting it.
I guess blame Trump, right? It's his virus that anti-vaxxers hate.
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Yup, blame Trump. Always. Joe campaigned on stopping the virus.
He told everyone he had a plan. Now he is calling for a dark winter of death. Some plan. More and more campaign promises broken but it’s Trump fault.
Trump takes credit for developing the vaccine yes or no?
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Of course, his ego drives him to take credit for everything. Not sure how you flipped this
To Trump but I should not be shocked. He has broken you liberals in a way that isn’t fixable. It’s pretty funny. And I’m not anti vaxx. Im just against this one because it’s not preventing people from getting the virus. Once one is developed that does that and is safe, I’ll talk to my doctor about it and make a decision.
Now you can carry on about Trump for some dumbass reason.
Please copy and paste anyone in the medical field that said it would prevent contraction of covid.
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You’re hard to take seriously, like you said. Like Jim, it’s a constant deflection
Onto other topics. Go about your day and enjoy living in an open state and keep complaining about it. Maybe one day you’ll recover from being politically stupid.
True. I was convinced for a time Jim & Quest were one in the same.
Their posts are remarkably similar in style and tone. Jim is always far more angry. I assumed Quest was his calmer alter ego. Still arrogant. Still humorless. Always right.
Human decisions are primarily emotional.
After that we rationalize to justify our choices.
However there are no emotions when we have our kids get the chix pox virus, etc. Weird right?
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Emotions about most vaccines are positive... notwithstanding the occasional bad side effect.
This is because they took years to develop and test and so there is less doubt about the risk/benefit analysis.
You are so stupid
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