Further FBI monkey business.

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:38 am on Dec 5, 2018

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Your source is Faux News. Pathetic.

Author: ND1IRISH (3023 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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For you, poor thing. It must be terrible not being able to Google yourself.

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:56 am on Dec 6, 2018
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Bring on the military tribunals!

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:07 am on Dec 5, 2018

Let's get it all over with.

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Those would be better than the FBI raiding my home with a midnight no knock warrant.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Dec 5, 2018

...whereupon they confiscate my cars and home without trial.

At this rate, both sides will get their own favorite brand of abuse of power. Won't that be great? We can all sit there and say, "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos."




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So take a knee at the National Anthem with others who have lost faith in law enforcement.

Author: LehighND (4169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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That’d be an option for those who confuse a patriotic/military tribute with law enforcement tribute

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:00 am on Dec 6, 2018

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I don't protest in ways that offend the very people I need to pursuade.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Seems counterproductive, don't you think? Like, you'd rather have a political fight than have the other side change their mind.

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Excellent. So how will you approach this with the FBI in a way that won't offend?

Author: LehighND (4169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:43 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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one doesn’t seek to persuade the offender, one seeks to persuade their overseers

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:07 am on Dec 6, 2018

But Wray is clearly part of the old establishment if he does not respond appropriately to this. Yes, he was appointed by Trump, but he may well have chosen from a group of cronies since he is not an Insider.

If there was a warrant, let’s see what it was for and what evidence was presented to the judge because it is highly unusual to raid a whistle blowers home like this, and it could have a chilling effect on all informants.
The coincidences of this case merit further scrutiny, and that is what Grassley is saying.


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Anonymously. On an obscure fanboy message board.

Author: Rooney (4596 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:18 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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Exactly. From the comfort of my recliner. My hope is that you will come for me last.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:40 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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You're on my list. Not next. Not last. But definitely on the list.

Author: Rooney (4596 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:33 am on Dec 6, 2018

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back to the uranium conspiracy. What did you say yesterday about

Author: irishscooter (4857 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 4:24 pm on Dec 5, 2018

The life span of a conspiracy- about 50 years. Crazy stupid disregard for FBI and Judicial branch. So much power in that deep state. You guys are such victims. Get your guns ready. They are out to get you

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I'm not getting my guns ready. I'll leave that to the next generation. Just sad people losing faith.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:33 pm on Dec 5, 2018

And sad that you guys think that is funny, and not something to worry about. For you guys, it is never something to worry about as long as you are doing the abusing of power. For me, I always dislike abuse of power, no matter who does it.

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This is not an abuse of power. That's the point.

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Dec 5, 2018

You have no idea what evidence the FBI has; instead you have ideology that says the guy is innocent.

Do you know who has seen that evidence? The federal judge who issued the warrant. And that process is hardly a "rubber stamp."


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Now imagine he was black and the police shot him.

Author: iairishcheeks (8919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:56 pm on Dec 5, 2018

You'd be calling for "equality". Then when the cops were acquitted, you'd say the system is broken.

You don't know if this was abuse of power or not. If there was anything to be learned from BLM it's that we shouldn't jump to conclusions.


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Instead of being white..and having a warrant served to him because there was evidence of criminality

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:57 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Good comparison.

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Exactly, you have your own biases.

Author: iairishcheeks (8919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:06 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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We all do.

Author: LehighND (4169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Dec 5, 2018

I just thank God that my biases are not Pro-Trump.

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Thankfully, I am the only unbiased person in America.

Author: iairishcheeks (8919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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That's just like, your opinion, man.

Author: LehighND (4169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:13 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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So, you understand his point. Good. Not sure Chris does.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:42 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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A warrant they were granted after presenting probable cause to a judge

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Oh, wait - you think judges are all part of the Deep State too. Obama judges!

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Rubberstamped.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:44 pm on Dec 5, 2018

I have zero faith that the judge questioned the FBI, or that the FBI presented unbiased facts to the judge, or that the FBI didn't target an individual as opposed to a crime.

I don't think I'm alone in this. It will become a big problem when more and more people lose faith in our institutions.


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Of course! Diabolical Deep State judges!

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:46 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Maybe - just maybe - the system is working.

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I also don't think ridiculing people will actually give them more faith in the system.

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:49 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Don't worry. I'm not offended. Just making a comment.

The Soviet system worked against normal criminals, too, unless they were connected. And it worked against enemies of the state. But, the people who supported the state could always point to the true criminals that the system took down, and say, "See? The system works." Later, of course, they would just raid the homes of the public doubters.

The system doesn't work if it works against both the innocent and the guilty. It is supposed to work only against the guilty.

And, if you think everyone who opposes you is criminal, the system is also not working.


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People invite ridicule when they make ridiculous statements

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Dec 5, 2018

Like how the American system is working like the Soviet system.

That is ridiculous. You deserve ridicule.


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After so many episodes of abuse, it is you who are being ridiculous. you defend them as quickly as

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Dec 5, 2018

any "Trumpie" defends Trump. Listening to you, one would falsely assume that corruption in the FBI is not possible.

It's ok though, your rules. Just stop whining when others do the same thing you do.

P.S. - we know how warrants get ruberstamped by specific judges - it happened in the Trump Campaign FISA as well. We also know that most of the FBI is not corrupt, but that does not prevent the properly placed Obama/Clinton loyalist plants from carryng out their deeds.


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Hey kids, let's explain the criminal justice system one more time!

Author: Chris94 (20222 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Dec 5, 2018

There is a check on FBI power, in case of corruption or rogue actions - it is called "the federal judiciary," which is not a rubber stamp (and this is not FISA)! Isn't that great?!

You reflexively defend this guy - and I have no idea who he is, or what he did, and neither do you - for ideological, not legal, reasons. How you don't see that, I don't know.


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Your reading comprehension is that of a child sometimes. I never said this was a FISA.

Author: BaronVonZemo (21564 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Dec 5, 2018

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meh

Author: NedoftheHill (20498 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:20 pm on Dec 5, 2018

I didn't say we have a Soviet system, by the way. It is just an extreme example that demonstrates a point about you saying the system works when it is used unfairly all the time.

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Is this why we elect these clowns?

Author: Curly1918 (1768 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:37 am on Dec 5, 2018

And why even bother with Hillary while she's on her Spinal Tap tour?

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Hillary and Bill promoting "Smell The Glove"?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (15169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:39 am on Dec 5, 2018

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Instead of a tiny Stonehenge the show could feature a dimuntive curved phallic statue

Author: Curly1918 (1768 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:12 am on Dec 5, 2018

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