Further FBI monkey business.
BaronVonZemo
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Level 2
Those would be better than the FBI raiding my home with a midnight no knock warrant.
...whereupon they confiscate my cars and home without trial.
At this rate, both sides will get their own favorite brand of abuse of power. Won't that be great? We can all sit there and say, "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos."
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
Level 3
So take a knee at the National Anthem with others who have lost faith in law enforcement.
(no message)Are you kind?-
Level 4
I don't protest in ways that offend the very people I need to pursuade.
Seems counterproductive, don't you think? Like, you'd rather have a political fight than have the other side change their mind.
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Level 5
Excellent. So how will you approach this with the FBI in a way that won't offend?
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Level 6
one doesn’t seek to persuade the offender, one seeks to persuade their overseers
But Wray is clearly part of the old establishment if he does not respond appropriately to this. Yes, he was appointed by Trump, but he may well have chosen from a group of cronies since he is not an Insider.
If there was a warrant, let’s see what it was for and what evidence was presented to the judge because it is highly unusual to raid a whistle blowers home like this, and it could have a chilling effect on all informants.
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Level 6
Anonymously. On an obscure fanboy message board.
(no message)"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."-
Level 7
Exactly. From the comfort of my recliner. My hope is that you will come for me last.
(no message)Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
Level 8
You're on my list. Not next. Not last. But definitely on the list.
(no message)"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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Level 3
back to the uranium conspiracy. What did you say yesterday about
The life span of a conspiracy- about 50 years. Crazy stupid disregard for FBI and Judicial branch. So much power in that deep state. You guys are such victims. Get your guns ready. They are out to get you
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Level 4
I'm not getting my guns ready. I'll leave that to the next generation. Just sad people losing faith.
And sad that you guys think that is funny, and not something to worry about. For you guys, it is never something to worry about as long as you are doing the abusing of power. For me, I always dislike abuse of power, no matter who does it.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
Level 5
This is not an abuse of power. That's the point.
You have no idea what evidence the FBI has; instead you have ideology that says the guy is innocent.
Do you know who has seen that evidence? The federal judge who issued the warrant. And that process is hardly a "rubber stamp."
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Level 6
Now imagine he was black and the police shot him.
You'd be calling for "equality". Then when the cops were acquitted, you'd say the system is broken.
You don't know if this was abuse of power or not. If there was anything to be learned from BLM it's that we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
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Level 7
Instead of being white..and having a warrant served to him because there was evidence of criminality
Good comparison.
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Level 12
So, you understand his point. Good. Not sure Chris does.
(no message)Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Level 3
A warrant they were granted after presenting probable cause to a judge
Oh, wait - you think judges are all part of the Deep State too. Obama judges!
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Level 4
Rubberstamped.
I have zero faith that the judge questioned the FBI, or that the FBI presented unbiased facts to the judge, or that the FBI didn't target an individual as opposed to a crime.
I don't think I'm alone in this. It will become a big problem when more and more people lose faith in our institutions.
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Level 6
I also don't think ridiculing people will actually give them more faith in the system.
Don't worry. I'm not offended. Just making a comment.
The Soviet system worked against normal criminals, too, unless they were connected. And it worked against enemies of the state. But, the people who supported the state could always point to the true criminals that the system took down, and say, "See? The system works." Later, of course, they would just raid the homes of the public doubters.
The system doesn't work if it works against both the innocent and the guilty. It is supposed to work only against the guilty.
And, if you think everyone who opposes you is criminal, the system is also not working.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
Level 7
People invite ridicule when they make ridiculous statements
Like how the American system is working like the Soviet system.
That is ridiculous. You deserve ridicule.
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Level 8
After so many episodes of abuse, it is you who are being ridiculous. you defend them as quickly as
any "Trumpie" defends Trump. Listening to you, one would falsely assume that corruption in the FBI is not possible.
It's ok though, your rules. Just stop whining when others do the same thing you do.
P.S. - we know how warrants get ruberstamped by specific judges - it happened in the Trump Campaign FISA as well. We also know that most of the FBI is not corrupt, but that does not prevent the properly placed Obama/Clinton loyalist plants from carryng out their deeds.
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Level 9
Hey kids, let's explain the criminal justice system one more time!
There is a check on FBI power, in case of corruption or rogue actions - it is called "the federal judiciary," which is not a rubber stamp (and this is not FISA)! Isn't that great?!
You reflexively defend this guy - and I have no idea who he is, or what he did, and neither do you - for ideological, not legal, reasons. How you don't see that, I don't know.
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Level 8
meh
I didn't say we have a Soviet system, by the way. It is just an extreme example that demonstrates a point about you saying the system works when it is used unfairly all the time.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Level 1
Is this why we elect these clowns?
And why even bother with Hillary while she's on her Spinal Tap tour?
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