SHSanders just stated the President and his admin have never interfered with Mueller investigation.

Author: jimbasil (33333 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:16 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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Well I guess that's it then. Case closed.

Author: Rooney (4804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:48 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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They might want to start interfering with it, and fast

Author: Chris94 (21087 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:51 pm on Jan 9, 2019

The revelations of yesterday might just take the president down.

Here is an op-ed today from John Schindler - as I have said, I know this guy, and he is the real deal.


Link: https://observer.com/2019/01/robert-mueller-top-secret-intelligence-will-sink-trump-presidency/

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Let me know when "might" becomes something more certain. I will be interested.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:14 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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I wonder how big the head explosions will be if impeachment occurs, when Dems realize Trump will

Author: BaronVonZemo (23045 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:04 pm on Jan 9, 2019

stay in office, and when it helps him go on to win the 2020 election?

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No you won’t. You will just have another excuse.

Author: Frank L (32920 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:05 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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"Excuse" is what you call inconvenient gaps in your information that I point out.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:35 pm on Jan 9, 2019

If you were honest, and said, "Here is what I know. It doesn't prove anything, but it is enough for me." That would be one thing. But you post as if you are 100% correct, and you are just waiting for the facts to catch up with your prefabricated position. I'm willing to wait for the facts to come out. In the meantime, I will point out when you don't have all the facts when you are pretending that you do.

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No, excuses are excuses. And you continually make them.

Author: Frank L (32920 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:50 pm on Jan 9, 2019

I have no issue admitting what hasn’t and may not be proven, a direct link to Trump with any of this.

But if you think any of what we already know is okay for the campaign of a major party candidate, you have serious issues.


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No excuses necessary given what we know...unless you are filling in with Frankesque assumptions.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Jan 9, 2019

Gaps are gaps, and they exist. We don't know.

But, you act like you do know, and you chastise me for not acting like I know. I'll wait for all the evidence.

As a lawyer, you should know better than most that half of a story can indicate guilt even in a perfectly innocent situation...perfectly innocent once 100% of the facts are known. I'm not arguing Trump is innocent of anything. I am pointing out that 100% of the facts are not known, and there may be explanations we don't know. You don't like that, and I get it. You are possessed on this issue. All good.


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I’m talking about what is already known including Trump Tower and Manafort.

Author: Frank L (32920 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Jan 9, 2019

No innocent, clean explanation for any of that.

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He seems very credible, and calling Manafort "Paulie Walnuts" only boosts his credibility.

Author: Cole (7597 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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He's a former NSA regional director

Author: Chris94 (21087 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Jan 9, 2019

A Russian specialist. I worked with him for years.

Believe what you want. And for God's sake don't ever take a stance about whether aiding and abetting a Russian espionage and disinformation campaign is an impeachable offense.

Heaven forbid.


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The best part of your post is that you said "former." Mr. Schindler, get out, and stay out.

Author: Cole (7597 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:16 pm on Jan 9, 2019

He worked for the NSA with an obvious political bias. He was nothing more than a swamp dweller. Bye, Felicia.

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You know shit. As usual.

Author: Chris94 (21087 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:56 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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I'm doing a goosestep all the way to the toilet. Thanks.

Author: jimbasil (33333 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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That's pretty much how I imagine you in your apartment.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:29 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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So, beyond reproach, like Clapper...inherently trustworthy on issues of Trump, like Frank and you.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Jan 9, 2019

I'm curious what you mean by a Russian disinformation campaign. Are you talking about the dossier that the Clinton campaign was preparing using foreign intelligence sources?

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You are confused on much, but not on that.

Author: Frank L (32920 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Jan 9, 2019

You know he means the troll bot disinformation campaign used by Russia to influence the election.

And seriously, Steele may be a lot of murky things, but one thing he isn’t is Russian disinformation. Again you know that but keep saying that crappy anyways.


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I haven't heard anything that ties Trump to the Russia fake news stuff.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:56 pm on Jan 9, 2019

Steele has Russian connections. Regardless, he is a foreign agent. The dossier includes things that the Dems sent to him. Very shady, but apparently it is ok to share information with foreign intelligence agents in order to influence a US election. And note: It is far worse to do this in order to improperly justify illegally using the US intelligence agencies to spy on the opposition party than it is to do so to get the Russians to pay for ads on Facebook. The two types of collusion are not even comparable. The Dem's acts, if true, were far worse than the Trump acts, if true.

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Except it didn’t start the investigation and parts of it have been corroborated.

Author: Frank L (32920 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Jan 9, 2019

I already said that Trump hasn’t yet been personally tied to it.

And again contrary to yer original point it was most certainly not a Russian govt misinformation.

But you always try to change the narrative when called on BS.


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The disinformation campaign aimed at voters.

Author: Chris94 (21087 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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Actually, the one the republicans were working on before Trump was the nominee.

Author: jimbasil (33333 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:51 pm on Jan 9, 2019

The one Clinton had, oh wait, the same one republican anti-Trumpers were working on.

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That is good news.

Author: NedoftheHill (21957 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Jan 9, 2019

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