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If Texas turns blue, it's good night for the GOP for quite some time

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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I am still a skeptic - especially for 2020 - but there is a very rapid change going on in Texas. First, the educated people in the suburbs are turned off by Trump. And second, Latinos - 40-45% of whom were reliable GOP voters in the Bush era - are apparently not happy about being called "invaders." I guess the GOP strategists just did not see that coming.

If this were to happen, and if it turned out to be sustainable, there would be no more GOP presidents in our lifetime. Might just be anti-Trump momentum...but the young people of Texas appear to be like young people everywhere - they are turning against the GOP in enormous numbers. Four GOP House members are retiring, which is certainly due to what their internal polling is telling them.

Lots of numbers here: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/could-texas-go-blue-2020/index.html


Link: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/texas-republicans-2020-elections-1456161

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One party rule (by either party) would be devastating to The Republic.

Author: iairishcheeks (27165 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:05 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Agreed. The GOP would probably still hold the senate, even if Texas turns blue.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:11 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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And all things are cyclical, even if it takes the GOP a long time to recover from Trump.

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That would effectively dissolve the border between Texas and Mexico.

Author: NedoftheHill (44666 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Just keep nominating an old white retard or a corrupt white crook, even a yellow TX won't help you.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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You mean like the one we have in office right now? He’s both.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Much of your perspective is incorrect. Most

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Assimilated Hispanics become republicans. Any shift in voters really has to do with people moving into Texas from more liberal states. I do agree liberals have more influence in texas, but I question if that will continue when their liberal policies start “messing with Texas.”

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Not just his perspective. Some conservatives are already talking about it.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Looking self in mirror is good. Liberals never do. HCR got worst white vote in last 3 decades at 37%

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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D just keep losing white votes in presidential elections. This is a trend too. Since white will still be majority for at least 25 years, that means in next 25 year losing 1% white votes while gaining 1% minority votes, you still end up at a net loss of votes.

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the risk of so willingly allowing the federal government to dominate what really should be left to

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:54 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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the states.

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Federal elections "really should be left to the states"? Thanks, Gov. Wallace.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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I'm not saying that, at all. The federal goverment has grown at the expense of state's rights, and

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:24 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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there are risks to both sides when that happens.

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Not in 2020. But 2024 and after, distinct possibility.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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The D’s problem is that many Hispanics are culturally conservative. The lib squad turns them off.

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Correct on 2020, because we sure as hell know Hispanics won't turn out for Biden

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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or a Massachusetts liberal, or whoever else you're going to put up.

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Biden is up 8 points in Texas

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:28 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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If he wins the nomination, Texas will be a swing state.

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I would put little faith in polls at this point...

Author: TNIRISH (1885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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"I have two guns one for each of you."
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Maybe, but I'd put even less faith in Cole's "gut feeling"

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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To each his own, as they say.

Are you kind?
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Blasphemer!

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Agree, but it isn’t a sure thing either way.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Trump would be foolish to take any state for granted.

Author: NedoftheHill (44666 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:27 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Sure, he has to prioritize.

I don't see why he isn't making a bigger play for African-Americans. I would think that they see that they are hurt by illegal immigration. He should be setting up meetings with urban leaders, and launching some sort of Dem-like initiative.


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Absolutely true.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Then you should nominate him.

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:31 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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I don't actually nominate people.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:05 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Too bad, though.

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Is that the royal “we”.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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No. You're means you're.

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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“ we sure as hell know” Again is that the royal we or who are you speaking for?

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:17 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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"We" means anyone one with an objective brain.

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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That’s my point. It leaves you out of the mix.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:22 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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So you think Hispanics will be excited about Biden. More great judgment from you.

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:25 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Now it’s excited? Thought it was turn out for. Who knows at this point, cept for the moronic “we’s”

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:29 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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in yer post who are so sure.

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Won't turn out for Biden is the same as not being excited to vote for him. You know the point is

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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right so in true chucklesmog form you debate semantics.

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No it isn’t. They may turn out for him because of Orange, not excitement. What % of Orange voters

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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turned out for him because of Hills? Think they were excited by him?

You really are a dummy.


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"Not it isn't" and I'm the dummy.

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Yes you are...... Bob Barr.

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Do you think you can put Hispanic voters on the Democratic plantation with black voters?

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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You Dems are the biggest racists of all.

Link: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/2020-hispanic-voters-donald-trump-225192

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and thus the Left's shifted stance to unfettered immigration but did you see that MN is in play?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59894 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thanks Omar.

TX will hold - esp since hispanics don't stay in Dem control.
But if MN slips to trump...he wins. And he only lost by 2 points or so in 2016 before Omar's alienating behavior.


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Right except illegal immigrants don't vote so this is idiotic.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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and thus your opposition to voter ID and illegal immigration "amnesty"

Author: BaronVonZemo (59894 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Where there is no iron clad system of voter ID no one really knows who votes

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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which is what the Democrats count on. They demand expanded background checks on honest law abiding citizens who want to exercise their Second Amendment rights, but call any attempt to do even voter ID, much less background checks on prospective voters “voter suppression”.

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The real shift is in the suburbs, Baron, among the educated

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Turns out that Trump cannot win unless the stupids turn out in large numbers.

Once you understand that, so many of his actions and so much of his rhetoric become more understandable.


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Educated? I think you mean “indoctrinated” since kindergarten by left wing “progressive” teachers

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn have won.

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Facts is facts. Trump relies on the nation's dumbasses.

Author: Chris94 (36754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:35 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Biden: "we choose truth over facts."

Author: Cole (16181 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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The Left needs to feel smarter than their opposition, so they tell themselves these things.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59894 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:33 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Uh huh. Like 2016. "It's the economy, stupid"

Author: BaronVonZemo (59894 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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I've read the left wing sites and those specific polls. Don't buy it for a second.
None of us are going to say we like Trump publicly since the left has made such a point of shaming and acting out.


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