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He keeps saying stupid stuff': Iowa Democrats concerned about Biden's gaffes

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:33 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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DES MOINES — With the Iowa State Fair attendees taking the measure of 2020 Democrats, some say they're increasingly concerned about former Vice President Joe Biden's verbal gaffes and mistakes on the stump.

"Well, I like Biden, he just keeps saying dumb stuff. He feels comfortable in interviews, but his staff just needs to really consider what they're letting him say," said George Alberson, a 62-year-old retiree. "People I know still like Biden. Whether that's predicated on the facts, I have no idea."

Since arriving in Iowa last Wednesday Biden has stepped on his own message of condemnation about President Trump, tempered with words of reconciliation.
On Thursday Biden spoke at an Asian and Latino Coalition Town Hall and conflated low-income students with racial minorities.
“Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids — " Biden said, before quickly correcting himself, “ — wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.”
Biden's campaign even had to release a statement of clarification, saying he "misspoke and immediately corrected himself during a refrain he often uses to make the point that all children deserve a fair shot, and children born into lower-income circumstances are just as smart as those born to wealthy parents."
That same day Biden misspoke again, saying Democrats like him choose "truth over facts," in what was muddled version of a standard campaign refrain.
The next day, Biden made the erroneous claim that he was vice president during the 2018 Parkland shooting, going as far as to say he even met with the kids personally in Washington, D.C.
"Those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president," he told reporters.
Still, while Biden's gaffes had journalists buzzing, many of the vice president's older supporters thought the attacks were unfair.
"People are taking his words out of context. They're holding the fact that he worked for the Obama administration against him," Sally Hendrenson, 60, told the Washington Examiner at the Iowa State Fair Monday. "He can do the job."
Iowa has traditionally not treated Biden well. In 1987, his first White House run was doomed after he was caught copying phrases from a British politician during a speech at that year's state fair, leading to a series of negative news stories about his record which helped sink his campaign.

In 2008, Biden dropped out of the presidential race after finishing in fifth place behind Barack Obama, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, and Bill Richardson with 0.09% of the vote, despite months of campaign in the Hawkeye State.


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Thread Level: 2

He’s always been prone to that. Clear lesser of two evils choice. Still head and shoulders above the

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:31 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Orange stain.

Thread Level: 3

You should be thanking Trump for all he's done for you.

Author: Cole (16187 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 7:50 am on Aug 13, 2019
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBzrMLeXkAQ9xCB.jpg

Thread Level: 4

Heh.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:14 am on Aug 13, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Least of twenty evils?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:36 am on Aug 13, 2019
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Again...this is about the impression of Iowa Democrats.

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The lesser of two evils is still evil. You still choose one evil. You're not just self insulting,

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:22 am on Aug 13, 2019
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you're also insulting most voters. Because at least about half of total voters only have 1 evil - the candidate they vote against is the evil, the candidate they vote for is not evil, Nothing more stupid than you vote for a person you think is a retard and evil.

Thread Level: 4

Gibberish alert.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:37 am on Aug 13, 2019
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Thread Level: 3

Joe is clear lesser evils of about 20. The others

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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are nuts, Beto, Booker,Sanders, etc.

Thread Level: 3

Agree. It is a clear lesser of two evils choice.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 2

The Parkland kids claim was a flat out lie, not a gaffe. A Brian Williams Special.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:09 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thread Level: 3

He confused Parkland and Sandy Hook

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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He is 215 years old, after all.

Thread Level: 4

Do you think the Sandy Hook kindergarten kids visited him in Washington?

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Because that seems to be what you are implying, and I am not even going to bother googling that. That didn't happen either.

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Excellent point. Chris did not think that far into it. Biden is a liar.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:47 am on Aug 13, 2019
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A Muellerian Defense, which could be true, brings up its own set of problems for Creepy Joe.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:29 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Mueller's staff would put Biden in jail for a "lie" like the one Biden told about Parkland.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Well, they might have put him in jail if Biden were a Republican, and they thought they could get to Trump by putting him in jail for a lie. Indeed, such a lie would seem to warrant a late night raid, with CNN in tow.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 2

Here is a Trump gaffe...except it was not a gaffe

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:19 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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A gaffe is a speech mistake. Wrong words chosen.

Here the president of the United States is either (1) revealing highly classified info or, what is much more likely, (2) just talking out of his ass because we have never had anything as stupid as this missile system the Russians are trying to develop.


Link: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1161026203345723393?s=21

Thread Level: 3

A gaffefe?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:40 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Advantages vs disadvantages of Russia knowing we also have this. THINK and discuss.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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We don’t have this. They know what we have.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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A nuclear-powered cruise missile is asinine. No idea why the Russkies would think it is workable. They just lost a bunch of people because of it.

Trump has no idea what we have and don’t have.


Thread Level: 5

Cruise missiles are cheaper, more accurate (so can have smaller warheads) & less trackable.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:51 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Using one (depending on how it is used) is much much less likely to cause a massive, nation annihilating counter-strike.

Anything that doesn't have to go into space and re-enter the atmosphere is much more reliable.

Having them gives the President one more option to defend the United States.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The speed of the delivery is unstoppable and thus the impetus, and if what you say were true, then

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:19 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Trump has done no harm.

They never know what Trump is thinking which makes his threats more significant.
What they think they know is always shaded with some doubt. This will give them pause either way.
And yes, it appears that they have had another nuclear disaster trying to achieve it.


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Regular ICBMs are unstoppable. Cruise missiles, too.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:27 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Didn't we just do that?...take down an ICBM that is (in a test, of course)?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:47 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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WASHINGTON — The Missile Defense Agency is deeming the first salvo test of its homeland missile defense system against an intercontinental ballistic missile threat a success, according an agency statement.
...
In the Monday test, the lead GBI destroyed the ICBM’s reentry vehicle “as it was designed to do,” according to the agency’s statement.

The trailing GBI “then looked at the resulting debris and remaining objects, and, not finding any other reentry vehicles, selected the next ‘most lethal object’ it could identify, and struck that, precisely as it was designed to do,” the statement adds.

The ICBM target was launched from the Reagan Test Site on Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands, which is over 4,000 miles away from the GBI interceptors buried in silos in the ground at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California.


Link: DefenseNews: Homeland missile defense system takes out ICBM threat in historic salvo test

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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We can hit one incoming ICBM about 50% of the time

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Under perfect conditions. If the tests are being reported accurately.

No one on the planet thinks we can protect ourselves against Russia’s ICBM force.


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So, we shouldn't try???

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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That I believe. But time and tech don’tstand still, and everyone wants to stay ahead of the curve,

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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no?

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The fact countries are racing for this tells us that they are vulnerable now.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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You've had a particularly lousy couple weeks since returning from vacation.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thread Level: 4

The Trump-Biden debates will be the best comedy we've had in awhile.

Author: iairishcheeks (27169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thread Level: 5

He won't be the nominee.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:51 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thread Level: 3

I imagine he won’t impress Iowa Democrats then...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Thread Level: 3

Wut-about!?!?

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Lol
Lol
Lol


Thread Level: 4

Heh.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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It’s so irresponsible for Trump to troll Putin.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:06 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Doesn’t he understand the lackey-sponsor relationship?

Thread Level: 6

Always been an ingrate. Hope Putie releases the pee pee tape soon.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Don't you have a stack of pee pee tapes already?

Author: Cole (16187 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:10 am on Aug 13, 2019
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I’ll send them back if you need them.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Aug 13, 2019
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Thread Level: 7

You, sir, are a real patriot.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:01 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 2

He's 76. Not gaffes. Dementia. And not early onset either.

Author: Cole (16187 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 5:57 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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For a media obsessed with Reagan's age it's curiously incurious about Biden's.

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Gaffes > Lies

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:38 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Joe's "We choose truth over facts." is neither gaffe nor lie. It's his belief. It's D's belief today

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:13 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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That is Orwellian...but I hesitate to give Biden too much credit.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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A lot of you libs wanted to 25A Trump. Why does Biden get

Author: Cole (16187 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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a pass on his health?

Thread Level: 4

Damn good point.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:54 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Gaffes = Gaffes

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:49 pm on Aug 12, 2019
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These are the people he has to impress in Iowa talking.

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