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Food for thought...

Author: Domer From Hell (16312 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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I kill 88,000 people in the United States every single year.
I kill 4,300 underage children every year.
I am responsible for 190,000 visits to the ER by people under 21.
Over 40% of all children in the 10th grade illegally use me.
I am the cause of 1.4 million acts of violence committed between strangers.
I am present in nearly half of all violent crimes up to and including homicide, rape, assault, and child abuse.
Each day I am used by illegal means 300,000 times but only 3,200 people are arrested.
My negative consequences cost the U.S. economy $250 billion a year.

Guess what? I’m not Marijuana and I’m not an assault weapon...I am alcohol.


We're all born bald baby!

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So my reaction...

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:35 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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We let the genie out of the bottle, so to speak, on alcohol. And it has all the problems you mention. Pot doesn't have that kind of cost because it has not been ingrained as a legal substance in our culture forever.

I'm guessing legalized pot would eventually result in comparable costs. Should we let another genie out of the bottle?

My mind and heart differ on this one for sure.


Are you kind?
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Violent crime would drop like a stone if pot use replaced alcohol use.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25816 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:56 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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When you're high, the last thing you want is conflict.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Pot is not harmless...

Author: Domer From Hell (16312 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:42 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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and it should and will remain highly regulated. Illegal or not, the bottom line is that weed is much less harmful than alcohol. When is the last time you heard of a marijuana overdose in the ER?

As far as your conclusion, I doubt the numbers will be close.

Alcohol is the root of all evil.


We're all born bald baby!
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There has been an increase in ER visits in Colorado due to edibles after legalization

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/well/eat/marijuana-edibles-may-pose-special-risks.html

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Not compared to alcohol related ER visits...

Author: Domer From Hell (16312 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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and NO overdoses. In fact it’s impossible to OD on weed. Alcohol kills in many more ways.

We're all born bald baby!
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Agree that this an odd measure.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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It seems like every new freedom might be accompanied by more damage (isn't that the whole balancing act). In Dofro's defense, the damage caused by legalization of pot should be measured against the damage caused by alcohol.

Are you kind?
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Does it seem like our society is letting genies out more and more?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:40 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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We clearly released the firearms genie over two centuries ago. You note we did for alcohol. And, we are doing it for gambling and marijuana as we speak. Prostitution is in line, I'm sure...it's victimless, right?

Are we making a country in which our grandkids will want to live and raise their kids?


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Yes. I share those concerns.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:41 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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And nobody enjoys a good vice more than me...

Are you kind?
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Agreed...although mine are generally limited to alcohol and occasional tobacco.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:44 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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This is simply a matter of us not hanging out enough.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:01 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Are you kind?
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Ha! We'll have to fix that.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:44 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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