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Same facts. Democrat in the White House. All good?

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:52 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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President has a failing golf resort in Ireland near Shannon Airport. US taxpayers are paying for Pence and other US official visitors to stay at Trump Resort, even though meetings in Dublin, on other coast of Ireland.

President has failing Doral resort near Miami airport. Proposes that next G7 conference be held there.

President has failing golf resort in Scotland (Turnberry). Local airport ready to close. Hence, on Trans Atlantic flights on Air Force One, the plane lands at airport and refuels. $11 million paid to airport thus far for fuel.

Cat bit your tongue, Conservatives?


Link: https://www.politico.eu/article/air-force-crew-made-an-odd-stop-on-a-routine-trip-trump-scottish-resort-turnberry/

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Unlike their American counterparts, some of the Tories have balls.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 12:21 am on Sep 8, 2019
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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There is only one retort: Venezuela

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:38 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Let me add.... California!

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California is booming, champ.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Link: https://www.dailynews.com/2019/08/16/the-story-of-californias-economic-expansion/amp/

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They handle their homeless well.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 12:53 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Franklin Roosevelt supported Russia by starting a second front in Europe

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 10:54 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Germany and Russia would have fought it out for years without FDR helping Stalin. The Russians had too many tanks but the Germans had hand held rockets to help stop them

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The forehead beer can crush move has been done already

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:03 am on Sep 8, 2019
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It was funny then. You’re not so funny.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The South Bend mayor flies by private jet everywhere

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 2:17 am on Sep 8, 2019
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His husband makes him

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:01 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Liberals want to end Hydraulic Fracking which has made the US an oil exporter

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 2:18 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Naw! It's just a talking point.

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:04 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Liberals love $ as much as anyone. Now, they will want to tax the hell out of fracking.

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Exactly, just like anyone believes we will deport all of the illegals in the nation.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Trump is trying to curtail refugee immigration

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 8:04 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Among other things.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:21 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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So, "xenophobia" is just a talking point?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Of course, it’s a demagogue point to rabble rouse the ignorant and to energize through hate.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:23 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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You've used the term multiple times to criticize people who voted for Trump.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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I searched before I posted that.

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Which term might that be, ignorant or demagogue? Xenophobia is used by demagogues to appeal to the

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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ignorant. Not all Orange voters are xenophobes, but almost all xenophobes are Orange voters. And there is a sizeable amount.

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Xenophobia is used by liberals to try to pretend that they have an English vocabulary

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 8:29 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Is that so? Are you calling Ned a lib? He brought up the term.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:20 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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No, am referring to liberal pundits on TV; the same ones that created ISIS by attacking Libya.

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 10:41 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Such as? Pray tell which lib TV pundits created ISIS, Jack?

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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I am The Lone Ranger

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 1:10 am on Sep 9, 2019
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All the liberals on TV claimed that the ISIS terrorists fighting Gaddafi were freedom fighters

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 11:37 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Liberals such as Bush and Obama were part of the 9/11 conspiracy and the liberal wars against Iraq and Libya

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Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:33 pm on Sep 10, 2019
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Got it. Thanks.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:11 am on Sep 9, 2019
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What are you talking about ?

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 12:21 am on Sep 8, 2019
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Democrats support Russia. Kennon wrote about FDR in his book "Memoirs"

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 2:15 am on Sep 8, 2019
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You mean Kennan, George F.? One of those elite academics if my humanities education isn’t failing me

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Kennan talked about pro-Soviet influence in FDR White House

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 7:18 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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No shit Sherlock. One of the guys at Yalta with him was a Soviet spy.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:19 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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Roosevelt prevented Soviet domination of Europe by starting a second front as well as defeating the Narzies, who we were at war with.

It wasn’t done simply to help Russia. It also had nothing to do with pro Soviet advisors.


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Roosevelt's policies lead to Russian control of half of Europe.

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 10:38 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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The Soviet army taking millions of casualties in defeating the Narzies gave them half of Europe. Our

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:19 pm on Sep 9, 2019
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second front helped keep the other half free.

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With no second front Germany would have stopped the Soviet tanks with rocket launchers

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 5:41 am on Sep 10, 2019
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Brilliant thinking, not.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:33 pm on Sep 10, 2019
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Self proclaimed genius O-3 spouts more irrelevant crap...

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:33 am on Sep 8, 2019
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Big Tech companies recruit me constantly. Not self-proclaimed

Author: NDPatrick30 (265 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2019)

Posted at 5:07 am on Sep 8, 2019
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I thought for a sec u meant facts of great economy, tax cuts, con SCOTUS picks x2........

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:48 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Heck yes!

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Nah, Conor is mentioning that there is no crime too small for Fatboy.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 12:25 am on Sep 8, 2019
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Forgetting is the gift you give yourself. This time it's Ms O's controversial luxury resort vacation

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Link: https://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0810/Michelle-Obama-Spain-trip-sparks-class-resentment

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I don’t think Democrats Presidents should fly. Due to the global warming impact, they should only

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:23 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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ride bikes, walk, or use those electric scooters—but only when charged using solar cells. No more jet fuel, gasoline, diesel fuel, etc.

If a President that is a Democrat needs to cross the ocean, they should only use sail boats.


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Absolutely and only use paper straws and no meat. Only kale.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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No, you would not be on here complaining about it if it was a Dem doing something similar.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Again, you are the mirror image of the hyper-partisans on the other side. For eight years, this board was infected with endless posts like this about everything Obama did, casting each and every one as evidence of his corruption, along with declarations that what he was doing was unprecedented.

It usually falls on me to point these things out, particularly when it's some long-time, favored poster. This will undoubtedly provoke one of the usual suspects to write that this is ridiculous because, after all, Trump really is that bad, whereas similar criticism of Obama was over-the-top. They would be correct, of course, about the second proposition, but they would be incorrect in assessing that the perpetual, def-con 4 outrage from people like you is justified. As sure as the wind, at some point, we will be treated to the obligatory accusations that Trump is playing too much golf, as well. After all, the thinly-veiled giddiness at the prospect of an economic slowdown/ recession already emerged, and I believe that's like step four.

Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...


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A Democrat has not done so. Nor any President.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:55 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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So your post is irrelevant.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Why are the barristers on this board so weak at debate?

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Various Democratic presidents have committed unethical acts or made unethical decisions. Remind me of the time you pointed out one of these missteps by Obama. Or, wait, lemme guess, Obama never did anything unethical, right?

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Because we engage with rationale and fact based advocates. Not crazy people.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:12 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Did President Obama own a golf resort funded by US taxpayers?

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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"Fact-based." I love that term. You know a heaping helping of BS is contained.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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You write uncannily like the hacks you venerate in our esteemed fourth estate.

You're embarrassing yourself with each post and you don't have the brains to walk away from this.


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Pls list all Presidents who've lied publicly ~10x a day & committed multiple crimes in plain sight.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 12:51 am on Sep 8, 2019
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Mad, the new Chosen One. Keeping it balanced and fair

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Thanks for your service to this esteemed board

Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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Just get back from your 18 mile ride, Fausto?

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Thanks for asking. Beautiful ride this morning and nine holes of golf

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 9:34 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Before dinner this afternoon. Did you do your usual Saturday hot house yoga routine ?

Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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Beautiful. Strong road riders usually golf.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I read it once on the UHND Open Forum.

By any chance, is your first name "Fred?"


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since you are the Chosen One what do you think of Trumpo

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Taking $3.6 billion from the military budget to build I guess a portion of the wall. Usurping Congress and hurting several military projects. Judge Napolitano, a former Domer ( Thanks Avenue) called this tyranny. Just trying to get the spin from Trumpo supporters on this action. I know you are the BaronNedEliChaddy whisperer.

Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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Do you have any sense of how weak you are?

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I didn't vote for the man in 2016. I voted straight Democrat, except for county sheriff, in the Fall of 2018. That's irrelevant, but someone like you can't comprehend that. It isn't much fun debating people who have no idea how to debate, which is to say, most people.

I don't follow the path of partisan hacks who put no thought into anything they believe. Rather, they behave like a finely-tuned sheep. Since the counselor is intent on evasion, the actual issue here is unethical behavior by presidents and whether loyalists of each party have enough intellectual integrity to call out their own guys when they behave unethically. When Obama told tens of millions of Americans that they would be able to keep their doctors, knowing that this wasn't true, that was unethical, and in my judgment, a more serious ethical transgression than the current con man-in-chief taking something off the top by putting his VP and team up in his resort.


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you are right. I don’t do enough strength training. Not sure why you are going off

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I called you fair and balanced and wanted your take on the 3.6B. For some reason no one is willing to respond. Your sense of humor is the best on the board.

Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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$3.6 billion is wasted on the military and probably on a wall.

Author: MAS (21457 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:51 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Where do you stand on disc brakes in the pro peloton, Laurent?

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I say give the pros disc brakes and electric pedal assist motors

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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But cut out all the PEDs. I am not a gear geek although some of my buddies are. I have a ten year old S2 Cervelo with Shimano Ultegra kit. About five years ago I bought some Easton carbon wheels and that upgrade made a real difference. I just ride an hour or so 4-5 times a week. I used to ride a lot more but I am slowing down in my old age. Cheers. I think Obama could beat Trumpo in a bike race but I think George W could beat them both.

Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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Sorry - typo. Meant Mas

Author: irishscooter (5539 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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I'm assuming your answer would be yes, it is no big deal.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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