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I think the Dems have really screwed themselves. Just my opinion.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 am on Sep 27, 2019
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The continued investigations and seemingly unhinged behavior with all things Trump is doing them no favors. Only their hardcore base is encouraged by it. They should have stuck with the Russia investigation and Mueller report and continued to pound that (regardless of what people perceive was in the report). The fact that they have all but dropped the Russia collusion in favor of the issue du juor undermines the credibility of the original claim.

Instead, they have jumped from scandal to scandal and end up dropping each one after the news cycle tires of the story. The original complaint about Trump is weakened with each new issue that goes nowhere. Spoiler Alert: This latest scandal isn’t going anywhere either. Actual articles of impeachment would only compound their problems.

The Dems will go into 2020 having accomplished nothing from a legislative perspective and Trump will crucify them for it. They’ve squandered two years of congressional control and it looks bad. While they’re at it, they have likely screwed any chance Biden had of being elected. Warren is unelectable.

IMO, they should have spent the last three years making the case for themselves rather than making a case against Trump.


I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.

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It's possible I suppose.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Sep 27, 2019
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I would caution you to dismiss anyone as "unelectable".

Are you kind?
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That’s certainly true. After all, Trump got elected. I don’t see Warren....

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:01 pm on Sep 27, 2019
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as being able to pull it off though. I could be wrong.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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Pelosi is the smartest operator in DC.

Author: conorlarkin (21073 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:37 pm on Sep 27, 2019
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She correctly gauged that the Mueller report lacked the smoking gun, and lacked crispness and clarity needed for impeachment.

Nancy knew Trump would find a way to impeach himself, compromising both national security and election interference in one swoop.

This will go to the Senate.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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She may just be out smarting her own party.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Sep 27, 2019
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The “inquiry” could just be another delay tactic.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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or the dumbest

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Sep 27, 2019
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Well penned. Exactly correct. “It has been “impeachment waiting for a reason”, and they have

Author: BaronVonZemo (60146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:50 am on Sep 27, 2019
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closed their minds to any facts that undermine their desired narrative. They have also lost all credibility with previous false claims but they are painfully oblivious to their embarrassing behavior.

Legislatively, all that they can do is go after Trump because they have no ideas themselves that they want to openly admit to before the 2020 election because they know how unpopular their real agenda is with the public.
They will not work together on common themes because it would make Trump look good, so they screw the country to help themselves........for instance, no drug price fix.

The head of their committee, Adam Schiff, is so unhinged that he read an imaginary narrative yesterday of Trumps supposed actions....and this is supposed to be the even handed administrator of an investigation?!

The public sees and understands this all.


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It's like losing something in the dark and looking for it elsewhere where there is light

Author: Curly1918 (16492 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:51 am on Sep 27, 2019
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In this case it was the 2016 election.

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It's being reported that the R's and Trump have not set up a "war room" to deal with the impeachment

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:33 am on Sep 27, 2019
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inquiry and the fall out from the WB's complaint. They believe this will all disappear or at least fall by the wayside as per usual with Trumps lies and actions.

Polls show the ground has shifted and continues to shift under Trumps feet.

Trump calling the WB a spy and should be executed is going to turn people who support him.

Then there's Giuliani who will more than likely give Trump's enemies more ammo.

Just for your info, the Ukraine investigator who investigated Hunter Biden allegation has stated there is no there, there, no impropriety no scandal.
Giuliani's allegations are false - just a manufactured tale for Trump Rubes.

Articles of impeachment are in process of being written now.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Lots of hope on your part. I guess we’ll see. BTW, I didn’t say...

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 am on Sep 27, 2019
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what Biden did was illegal. The optics are bad though and you have to take into account how it is viewed by the public.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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Just so you get it

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:58 am on Sep 27, 2019
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I made no comment about the Biden’s engaging in illegal activity nor did I write you posted that.

The optics of the Biden’s aren’t bad - only the manufactured false allegations are bad and for all those who continue to traffic in these allegations they are the willing agents spreading deceit in American politics.

Your unwillingness to halt the spreading of the false allegations makes you complicit in this scheme.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Nothing to see there. I’ll just take your word for it. You sound like a Trump supporter.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 am on Sep 27, 2019
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I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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