“It’s Trump’s fault, but now is not the time to blame”. TDS. Consider:
1) Libs will never, ever, ever give up on this chance to finally harpoon their great orange whale that they have stalked through the seven seas and the maelstrom and back without success.
2) China didn’t just lie about the virus, they made up false data.
3) The WHO screwed up by blindly trusting a untrustworthy source - (btw this is is reminiscent of our concerns the international oversight of Iran in the Iran Deal). WHO issues a tweet on Jan 14 that it isn’t transmitting human to human.
4) Our CDC trusted the WHO
5) Our President, Donald J Trump trusted the experts from the CDC initially after being reassured by their advice
6) Reports of China kicking out journalists start, and China lies more about the situation.
7) Despite neither the WHO nor the CDC yet being willing to call this virus a pandemic, Trump decides to ban travel to China despite massive negative impact to economy that will result in an election year. Trump put the country ahead of himself.
This move proves to be the single biggest effect on “flattening the curve” to date.
8). Liberals and msm immediately call Trump racist for banning China travel.
9) Trump discovers in ensuing weeks that the pandemic response plans in our country are woefully lacking and reorganizes the structure bringing in private industry to help in an unprecedented move.
10) Ventilator shortage mentioned by conor- 2010 Obamacare guidelines go into effect. Specific taxes and regulations on medical device makers eliminates ability to make ventilators affordable much less in volume.
Trump removes such regulations as Virus hits the US and the world.
11). Trump restricts travel first to Italy and specific hot spots, and then to Europe and the UK despite their protests that they wanted a say in the matter.
12) Trump brings 2 parties together for massive relief packages for the newly unemployed
13). Imagine if a weaker economy had to endure this.
14). Who has shown himself to be the president who will know best how to help the economy fight back?
Sounds like reasonable leadership to me.
Replies to: “It’s Trump’s fault, but now is not the time to blame”. TDS. Consider:
Don't even try to defend our lack of preparation and response.
We were caught flatfooted because the nation did not get out in front of this.
Trump did not help as he downplayed it until about a week ago.
We were "on notice" 6 -8 weeks ago that a pandemic was coming. It required a strong proactive response -- shut down travel, ramp up production of supplies and test kits, freeze in place.
It required a leader with the vision and political courage to communicate that the nation needed to jump on a small hand grenade before we were hit with a monster hand grenade. South Korea did so.
Trump (like many posters including you, Baron) belittled the threat. Made fun of the media "hysteria."
And now we are in a shit storm.
Work the problem.
[Edit for typos]
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Thought you were referring to link about new promising French Study,you know the
one they didn't cover
I’m trying. Trump is not helping...unforced errors, every goddam day:
11:47: *TRUMP SAYS FDA HAS APPROVED CHLOROQUINE FOR USE IN COVID-19
12:12: *FDA SAYS IT HAS NOT APPROVED CHLOROQUINE FOR COVID-19 USE
So, you think Joe will have less unforced errors? Seriously?
Trump’s not perfect. Get over it and stop holding him to a standardno one can meet so that you can see him fail.
You also show a long term pattern of not accepting Trump’s inherent speaking style. Even when you know what he means (CNN coverage being a hoax to induce frenzy rather than the epidemic being a hoax), you refuse to acknowledge it because you are predisposed against him.
WhataboutJoe? (Or, whataboutMyImagination?)
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It was a question. I'm hoping to hear your answer because we need to apply rules evenly to all.
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“The thing we weren’t prepared for was the media”. Quite true. He should have anticipated the
TDS media and talked to the country earlier to tamp them down..
We saw how far TDS hatred would push them - basically, there is no harm they wouldn’t inflict on a country they hate for electing Trump in order to hurt Trump and regain control.
The FDA has approved chloroquine for Chinese Virus testing. It been around since 1944, is generic, i
cheap, is readily available, is proven effective vs. malaria and some arthritis.Can be prescribed by doctors for off label use. Let's
get that sucker tested and out to population. It will be there lot quicker than development of new vaccine. Then let's pray.
What you doing to help those in need?
Posted at 3:38 pm on Mar 19, 2020
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As long as you're trying, we're good. Oh and wash your hands and get your TP.
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OMG.
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He's seen the light!
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The scales fell from his eyes (or was that his skin?)
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He's going to cover all of this on his next Reliable Sources show.
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Let me say something nice about Donald's presentation today,
nice new spray tan
Link: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/7f/f2/437ff21eed902c9861be37bde59d755c.jpg
I respectfully disagree. He's as hideous to look at as ever.
But he's getting more effective at parrying the nonsensical and irrelevant questions from our Ron Burgundy class.
Dumb!
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Boom goes the dynamite!
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The virus is not Trump’s fault. But are you saying he made no mistakes?
I am not interested in listing those mistakes now. I am interested in some degree of national unity.
What is more annoying: the knee-jerk Trump attackers or the mindless Trump defenders? That’s a judgment call.
Nope. Overall, I’d give him a good grade though, & I wouldn’t accept the negative narrative of the
MSM and the rest of the TDS crowd because it simply isn’t true.
No president would have done any differently when China had lied to the WHO and created false and misleading numbers.
There absolutely needs to be a finger of blame directed toward China.
We're on the same page on this one.
The worst effect of this crisis is that people are devolving into our natural evolutionary state of feelings over facts, fear over rationality.
He has made mistakes but has had far more successes than mistakes
The libs will not give him an inch...you at least seem to be modifying your behavior ever so slightly
I count 18 mistakes in less than 2 minutes.
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NezEbDx4B9A
UPDATE: Trump needs to let the pros answer questions at these press conferences
“we were very prepared ... the only thing we weren't prepared for was the media.”
I’m trying. I’m really trying.
Sounds like his mistake is that he's too trusting.
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His only mistake is loving us all too much!
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Hey, you just mimicked what they told us to say at our med school interviews when they asked us what
our greatest weakness was.
It's what gives him his glow...
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He's ....
15) Trump disbanded pandemic response unit in 2018
16) Trump initially discourages testing so we can keep numbers low so as to not spook the stock market
17) Trump repeatedly downplays the severity of the virus b/c he is afraid of its ecomonic impact. People are still comparing this to the flu even though its 20X more deadly
18) Trump appoints Pence to be in charge despite the fact he couldn't control an HIV pandemic in his own state.
19) Trump classifies all executive branch communication related to the virus so that all expert info goes through he and Pence instead of straight to the people
20) Trump classifies intelligence memos that have warned him since his first day in office that the US was ill-prepared for a pandemic
21) Trump tries to keep cruise ships from docking, going against all medical experts and basically guaranteeing a bigger spread within the ship.
22) Still no tests in my community..they are now doing several postmortem tests b/c they couldn't get the tests while the patients were still alive.
23) With lack of federal guidance until a couple days ago every state is responding totally differently...which undermine the efforts of the more proactive states.
He is doing better now, but hopefully it is not too late. His initial handling of the issue deserved the criticism it received.
To be clear, this is China's fault, but none of us can change political conditions within China. We can demand a better response from our leaders.
Two years ago we knew we were not ready for a pandemic....................But no one told Donald
Or maybe he didn't read his briefing.
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/flu-pandemic-universal-vaccine.html
Trump is a moron, but the response team was a group of do-nothing bureaucrats on the NSC
They would not have helped.
The National Security Council staff is not populated by “do-nothing bureaucrats”
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one more thing. my sister manages a system of hospital emergency rooms.
she is on the front lines - working minimum 14 hours/day in medical facilities around the baltimore area. she told me this morning that the trump administration has done a fantastic job from a medical perspective of phasing in appropriate measures using available resources and of covering the horrid deficiencies created by the obama administration, the chinese, who, and the msm. she said it is going to get a lot worse, but has confidence the policies being implemented by this administration will win in as short a time as humanly possible. she is a 45+ year expert in emergency procedures and processes, has been on lecture tours, and gets contracted by hospitals across the country to revitalize their emergency departments.
or, you can believe cnn.
you choose.
Completely unsubstantiated heresay from an anonymous, unaccountable message board poster.
I'll go with actual reported news, I guess.
Seems like the last 3 years of reported news has been based on that.
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So all the other doctors voicing frustration are lying?
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Yea, cause that's exactly what he said. Go back to NDN
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"Or you can believe CNN."
CNN, of course, having dozens of doctors on recently that are contradicting his sister's "account." Therefore, those docs would be lying.
CNN? You mean the lowest, by far, ranked cable news company. No thanks
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By all means, get your news from und67's account of what his important sister may have said.
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Actually I trust the anecdotal statement from und67,more than hand picked,
biased doctors statements gathered by the wiz bang news crew at CNN
Thank you for sharing this information,your sister is a hero,God bless us all
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lack of medical supplies is somehow the media's fault?
For what, reporting on it?
But,But,But Iam Bremmer said....... and He went to Tulane, for gods sake!
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I wonder what the libs are doing besides whining.
Posted at 10:54 am on Mar 19, 2020
We got two senior neighbors we are shopping for.
Monday I will be helping Oakmont Bakery make 10,000 sandwiches (literally) for those in need.
Mr. Rogers said “look for the helpers”
I cannot imagine sitting on my dead ass whining about Trump.
A quick look at this board shows about 5x more Trump-related posts coming from his supporters.
TDS looks to go both ways.
I am shocked at how much effort people are putting into blaming or defending him.
He made mistakes. Why dwell on it? On the other hand, why twist yourselves into pretzels trying to defend him?
If people blamed Charles Barkley for this crisis, I wouldn't spend hour coming up with 14-point talking point memos about how Sir Charles is really not to blame.
The rewriting of his actions is in constant motion. Calling them out on this is important, here or
anywhere.
Though we all agree COVID19 isn't of his making, his response or lack there of (this includes his false information - out right lies and his shredding of our nations defenses for such a matter)
has created a far worse defense in preparation for this pandemic. A pandemic he was given ample time to act as our defender.
He is POTUS for Christ's sake, he was elected to be our pillar and instead he has used this crisis to frame his fame and ego all the while he
let down a nation looking for a leader.
The biggest problem with him is, he's been doing this all along and we're to be blithely going along with it and him. He has created a nation in fear.
If ever the US has been vulnerable in all aspects of life, it has been under his admin. Our nation has been compromised by his leadership in everything.
We'll always have Helsinki
Impossible
that asshole Irish 64 outnumbers us by himself
Would you say someone has TDS if they've posted about Trump over 100 times in the last 30 days?
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Five seems a little low
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The good news
Is there appear to be far more conservative republicans on this board and that may have something to do with it.....
Having Irish 64 and ND_in_DRO on your side is an enormous handicap
Even Frank has lightened up
You are a hero,God bless us all 💪
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They are whining almost as much as
Donald when he was angling to get out of serving in Vietnam. Ooooh my heel hurts so bad, LMMFAO.
👍👍👍👍👍
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My guess is the TP hoarders are 2:1 Republicans
I can still bike down to my local organic coop and get a roll when needed, but every morning when the Kroger opens all the fat middle-aged people in giant SUVs and pickups are already in line and buy all the TP they have.
Based on your expertise in BS or your bias?
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I did not realize only Republicans drive SUVs.
Posted at 12:30 pm on Mar 19, 2020
I live in a heavily democratic city and there are SUVs everywhere.
The premise that republicans are hoarding toilet paper is absurd. Limits have been in effect here for 10 days.
He's just showing what a
moron he is.....just laugh at him
I like what Trump is doing not because I am Republican but because I am a US Citizen who wants to see us recover from this as quickly as possible
That recovery has nothing to do with politics.....nothing......
You win, dumbest post of the month, dipshit
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But you give 5 thumbs up to a post that says the same thing
just parties reversed.
Really? Ara making sandwiches and helping seniors
is the same thing as you "biking down to a coop" and fat SUV/pickup drivers? Wow.
I'm providing items to seniors as well
I just don't assume that only people of my political persuasion are doing that.
I assume that split is probably 50/50.
But what I've seen with my own eyes leads me to believe the TP situation doesn't break 50/50.
It's people driving into town from outer areas (which are mostly Republican compared to in-town which are mostly liberal) that are buying all the TP they can stuff in their SUV
You are one
f*cked up individual if your brain is that small to think that
You are a hero,God bless us all
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Very happy to hear that. Where in your post was that stated that you were doing that?
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What a truly idiotic statement.
Posted at 11:11 am on Mar 19, 2020
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No more so than yours
which assumes implies liberals aren't helping in their community.
I wondered. You haven’t said what you are doing.
Posted at 12:23 pm on Mar 19, 2020
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I wonder how many of the "not my President" crowd will refuse
the money they are talking about sending?
Is Fatty dipping into his own pocket? What a stupid statement.
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He gave up his last quarters salary to go toward this problem.
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god love and bless you, lad.
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also getting some accolades from unexpected sources, like ilhan.....
plus a few other dems who see real leadership in action and are broadminded enough to cooperate.
Link: ilhan praises trump response to covid-19
Maybe it is Donald's fault, Consider:
Donald, slow on the up take.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NezEbDx4B9A
Well done BVZ
I have said it before, he's a prick, has an ego the size of a house, but he knows how to get things done and he doesnt give a shit what people think about him
Sounds like a leader to me. He is doing an excellent job just like he has done with 90% of everything else.
That's all I care about, now all the TDS'ers can flail away with their blathering. It has gotten quite comical to read; entertaining in fact in lieu of such poor choices on TV
What Woodstock said
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