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We're No. 1! (Not in a good way)

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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We now have more cases than China even.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/usa-coronavirus-cases.html?fbclid=IwAR0ep95NuigEC346I5H2f-L7YvbFaH7MM71hu7A8PxgXMBfqNv77LQd1f7k

Replies to: We're No. 1! (Not in a good way)


Thread Level: 2

Interesting that this non-political post has Trump supporters so defensive...

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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It's simply not scientifically possible for this to be true given their population density and how

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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widespread the virus was before they enacted shut down procedures which could not have contained it at that point. they are lying again as we all know about their numbers. But beyond that, we have been getting very good, widespread testing in the past week that you simply don't hear about from your biased news sources.

It is not epidemiologically possible for this claim to be true without the explanation of either bmore widespread testing in the US, lying by the Chinese about their number of cases, or both. Science.


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I don't believe the NYT reporter doesn't know China doesn't count those positive but asymptomatic

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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case as confirmed case to publish. (But I believe you truly don't know it and most posters on this board don't know it). The way China counts is not cheating, it is just culture difference and different goal of testing. China's main goal of testing is to track the spread of the infected, search its connection routes, find its super spreader in order to suppress the epidemic. The goal is not to see who is sick. As a result of this way counting, China has 43K people who are tested positive but also are asymptomatic. These people are not included in the confirmed cases. So, using u.s. standard China's confirmed case should be 80k + 43k = 123k. We're not #1 yet. Obviously NYT reporter just can't wait.

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The info is from Johns Hopkins University

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 8:35 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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There are a million other places the same thing is being reported if you need a source other than the NYT.

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It is a number from Hopkins that came from China and they did not infer the negative implication

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:55 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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that you did. they know that it reflects either false data or excellent screening in the US, or both.

Either way, the number of REPORTED CASES is now the highest in the US. I'm proud say that we don't lead in deaths (not even close thanks to our superior health care system), and as the melting pot of the world with massive flow of illegal immigrants as well, we appear to be in far better shape than expected.

Big shout out to President Trump for buying us the time to get ramped up for this medical crisis for having the guts to shut down travel with China in a way that other country's leaders such as Italy did not. And he did this BEFORE the WHO even came to understand the real threat since they were believeing China's fake numbers.
Another shout out for his great organization and mgmt of this problem state side. The epidemic response program was never even developed or stockpiled by previous administrations. It was simply and understandably not anticipated. But Trump has jumped in a gotten things done.

And a final shout out to Trump for crafting such an incredibly robust economy, that it does not appear that we are going to go through a depression as would have happened if this had fit 4 years ago.

You personally actually owe Trump a lot. we all do.


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Thread Level: 2

Oh good. The fatality rate finally dropped (to 1.42 from 1.51) We're still low in fatality rate.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Only by testing everyone can you know the true death rate. So the more testing you do, the lower the death rate looks compared to other places that are not detecting the milder cases.

DRO, don't surrender your scientific integrity to this reporter's sensationalism. You know what's important is fatality rate, not how many people get infected.


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No, this is a result of our testing efforts (you won't hear that on CNN), and of course you still...

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:41 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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....believe China who lies because they are communist.

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Wrong. Major intelligence failure by the Trump Administration. Fact.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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We are swimming upstream.

Lack of testing capacity early on cost us.

What should have been an orchestrated 2 week shutdown in late February has turned into a shit show.

Governors bailing out Trump.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

You know Trump is kicking ass, things are improving, and it makes you sad

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Conor's new saying - "swimming upstream".

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:16 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Must have been in the WaPo and he liked it and is using the hell out of it.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 3

Do you believe Putin's drivel on COVID there?

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25817 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Still not enough tests where I live.

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Colorado has officially given up on trying to test everyone suspected...only those requiring hospitalization are getting tested due to lack of supplies.

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Dr Brix said tests just shipped to all states. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Loss of this talking point that is. And the test was accomplished incredibly quickly by Abbott labs after meeting with Trump and other companies. Trump removed the restricitions, and the private sector did the rest.
No way that a government could have achieved this.

The test is als a rapid test with instant answer.


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Should have been available 3 weeks ago

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 8:19 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Another talking point seemed to be missed in the infection rate.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:09 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Brix also said - “When people start talking about 20 percent of a population being infected, it’s very scary," she said during Thursday's White House briefing. "But we don’t have data that matches that based on the [actual] experience.”

But the Dems will start to listen now, CNN posted that Obama said to practice social distancing. All is well now.


I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 6

Actually, The Chosen One has been very good about social distancing from SleepyJoe

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:03 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Thread Level: 4

Same here.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25817 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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The actual numbers of infected is far greater than the "official" numbers.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Do you think China is telling the truth, not sure but just wondered? Or do they have a cure or some

Author: THEISMANCARR (17203 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:54 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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sort of medicine and are not telling us?

Thread Level: 3

Of course he does, CNN told him so.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:38 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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I don't have cable and haven't watched CNN in 10 years

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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But Fox News is reporting the same thing.

Link: https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-overtakes-china-italy-in-total-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-researchers-say

Thread Level: 3

They've tested way more than us and still have less cases.

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 6:57 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Agressive testing and quarantines...South Korea did the same thing. We still don't have enough tests 3 weeks after the initial outbreak.

Thread Level: 4

Maybe you should move to Wuhan.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 4

Not true.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Thread Level: 5

Link?

Author: ND_in_DRO (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 8:27 pm on Mar 26, 2020
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Health officials in CO have been warning for days that there are likely thousands more infected who have not yet been tested. If either country is under-reporting...it's us.

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