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I have been preoccupied w/compiling my Family History / Ancestry and WOW!...

fredyo 12638 posts Joined:
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This is the home where my Grandfather was born.

32 Oliver St. Rochester, NY (off of East Avenue, around the corner from where George Eastman lived)

$1,586,186
Est. refi payment

$7,236/mo
6 bedrooms
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5.5 baths
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6,297
sq ft

Link: 32 Oliver Street Rochester, NY

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  • Level 1

    I spent some time in Rochester. Lovely place.

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  • Level 1

    Very nice, Fred...

    ...not quite like my Grandfather's home in County Tyrone...or the apartment he emigrated to in Jersey City...or the home his grandson moved into in the SF Bay Area. I'll have to see if I can upload a photo of the ancestral home (Foundation laid in 1780)

  • Level 1

    Wow indeed Fred!

    I know the house. East Avenue remains one of my favorite streets in America.

    You come from class.

    My grandfather grew up on Champlain Street in the Irish neighborhood. His father was a Rochester cop. And pretty sure he issued plenty of “street justice.”

    Grandfather was the youngest Sgt Major in US Army in WW I. Thereafter married a gal from the neighborhood, my grandmother born in 1888 who lived to age 95.

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    • Level 2

      The Allen Creek name emanated from Timothy Allyn...

      Allen’s Creek is one of the oldest settled areas in the Town of Brighton, with roots stretching back to the late 18th century.

      The area was first occupied briefly by Captain Timothy Allyn of Massachusetts, who in 1790 built a log cabin on a 500‑acre tract along the creek that now bears his name . After a summer in the wilderness, Allyn sold the land and moved to Geneva, NY, but left behind a strategically located site on the route from Canandaigua to the Irondequoit Landing — a major trade corridor for Canadian flour and supplies.

      Modern archaeological work at the Allen’s Creek site has revealed deep cultural layers dating back to the Late Archaic period (about 3360–1120 B.C.), with artifacts such as Genesee points and Brewerton‑phase tools. It was shaped by the Wisconsin Glacier until 8,000 BC and is now divided by the Genesee River.

      Brighton, a suburb of Rochester, was a Seneca Indian hunting ground before becoming an Erie Canal Village in 1823. These findings show that the site was occupied for thousands of years before European settlement, with evidence of both precontact and historic periods.

      Brighton's first residents were native Americans, members of the Seneca tribe of the Iroquois confederacy. Their trails crossed the Genesee country, connecting Lake Ontario with the Genesee River. Settlers coming to the area after the Revolutionary War used these same trails to search out land for purchase.

      The 1788 Buffalo Creek Treaty, negotiated by Oliver Phelps, eliminated the Seneca's claim to the 2,500,000 acres east of the Genesee River.

      Enos Stone of Lenox, Massachusetts, was one of the original purchasers of Township Thirteen, Range Seven. He chose the 210 acres of lot #12 near the convergence of two Seneca trails on which to site his farm and tavern, providing food and lodging to hundreds of pioneers who poured into the Genesee country.

      Near the "Rock and the Elm," a landmark for traveling Senecas and settlers, the early log cabin was replaced in 1792 by a simple frame dwelling which housed the ten Stone family members as well as countless visitors and long-term boarders. The two-story structure that faces what is now East Avenue was added in 1805. Louis Philippe (later King of France), Aaron Burr, Marquis de Lafayette, Joseph Brant, and Captain Charles Williamson enjoyed the hospitality provided at Stone's Tavern.

      Marshfield Parsons was another early settler in 1825. He moved in with his friend, Enos Blossom, whose house was on the location of today’s Brighton No. 1 Fire Hall, and eventually married Eliza Blossom in 1837. Parsons operated a powder mill on Allen’s Creek until 1848, when an explosion killed several workers. He sold his equipment to the Rand company in what is now Powder Mills Park.

      Prospering in his new community, Parsons built a large brick Greek Revival farmhouse on East Avenue. His heirs sold the house and farmland to the Country Club of Rochester after that organization was founded in 1895. The Parsons house was the first clubhouse until it burned down in 1902.
      The country club is associated with a 20th century athlete who grew up on Allen’s Creek in Brighton. Walter Hagen, born in the Glen in 1892, was introduced to golf at the age of 3. He became a caddie at the country club when he was 8, the position earning him playing privileges.
      Promoted from caddie to assistant pro when he was 15, Hagen went on to win the U.S. Open in 1914 and 1919 and, in 1922, became the first native-born American to win the British Open. His tally of 11 professional tournament wins (Majors) is third behind Jack Nicklaus (18) and Tiger Woods (14).
      Hagen was one of hundreds of children who attended Allen Creek School. Founded in 1815 as Brighton District No. 6 school, it held classes in private homes until 1818, when a one-room school was built to accommodate scholars aged 5 to 15 from November through March.

      Increasing enrollments following WWII, made it necessary to explore options for a more economical way of educating Allen Creek graduates beyond the 8th grade. The voters in this early district approved annexing the school to Pittsford School District. With the annexation of Allen Creek School occurring in July 1958, it became the 4th school in Pittsford School District. At the time of annexation, there were 380 students attending Allen Creek School.

      Conor, you should feel honored to be member of a small community that had such a profound impact on this great country of ours.

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    • Level 2

      Did you know your Grandfather well? I used to spend summers...

      ...with mine at his cottage on the lake. I lived there with him the last 2 years of his life, while attending RIT.

      My Father was the hard-ass. He had a glorious firearm collection. The three of us used to shoot Colt Gold Cup Match pistols, competitively.

      I miss them both.

      Sounds like you had great role models.

      My Great Grandfather married a lass from Belleville, Canada. She lived on the Bay of Quinte, a long, narrow bay, shaped like the letter "Z" on the northern shore of Lake Ontario. Her name was Margaret Mary McCaffrey.

      An early French Catholic mission was built at Kenté, located on the north shore of what is now Prince Edward County, leading to the Bay being named after the Mission. Officially, in the Mohawk language, the community is called Kenhtè꞉ke, which means "the place of the bay". The Cayuga name is Tayęda꞉ne꞉gęˀ or Detgayę꞉da꞉negęˀ, "land of two logs."

      The Bay, as it is known locally, provides some of the best trophy walleye angling in North America.

      My Great Grandfather came to America from Paris, in 1871. His last name was Jung, from Alsace, originally. He and Margaret both worked in a gourmet French Restaurant in Manhattan.
      The Allens dined there frequently, and they were treated with great respect, every time they visited. The Allens were so enamored of them that they offered them an opportunity of a lifetime.

      They ran the Estate for the Allens. My Grandfather and Charlotte Whitney Allen were born a month apart and grew up together in the manse.

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  • Level 1

    Class begets class. Pay attention libs.

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