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Piggybacking off Phuckin Qwesty's post, what is democratic socialism and should we be concerned?

iairishcheeks 30691 posts Original UHND Member

Posted12:51 am on Oct 24, 2026

I've just learned that "socialism" is triggering, "democratic socialism" however is a completely different thing. Explain the difference to me.

And then, after sorting out the semantics confusion, what do you think of the DSA platform as posted on their website? Do you support it?

Partial Summary:

• Constitutional Overhaul: Draft a new U.S. constitution that abolishes the U.S. Senate and the Electoral College, while expanding the House of Representatives.
• Democratic System: Replace the two-party system with a multi-party democracy and replace the presidency and Supreme Court with leadership chosen directly by Congress.
• Voting Rights: Extend full voting rights to permanent noncitizens and individuals with criminal convictions.
• Justice & Immigration: Abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), dismantle current policing and prison systems, and pursue open borders over the long term.

Okay so I like the abolishment of the two party system, I'll give them that.

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The DSA isn't a monolith just like Rs vs MAGA Rs and Democratic party

Quest4twelve8113 posts 8:15 am on Oct 24, 2026

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  Oh really, which DSA pols are the normal ones?
  
  iairishcheeksOP30691 posts 12:15 pm on Oct 24, 2026
  
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    Not up to date on DSA candidates but Mandami governs normal, no?
    
    Quest4twelve8113 posts 12:58 pm on Oct 24, 2026
    
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      So you come on here with phucking bluster but have no idea about what you are defending?
      
      iairishcheeksOP30691 posts 1:31 pm on Oct 24, 2026
      
      I wish I could say this was out of character for you.
      
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        Hmm ok weird take but whatever calms you down
        
        Quest4twelve8113 posts 3:07 pm on Oct 24, 2026
        
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        Go read your original post and then tell me where I am off here.
        
        iairishcheeksOP30691 posts 3:30 pm on Oct 24, 2026
        
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I would propose a litmus test for the Boroughs (AKA NYC) and create The District of NY.

fredyo12679 posts 7:02 am on Oct 24, 2026

We the people, who live in NY State would elect separate leaders from the lot(s).
Two concurrent bills — Assembly Bill 2025‑A3778 and Senate Bill 2025‑S3484 — propose amending the New York State Constitution to divide the state into three autonomous regions rather than creating entirely new states
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The proposed regions are:
New Amsterdam Region – all upstate counties north of Westchester
New York Region – NYC and surrounding downstate counties (Bronx, Kings, New York, Queens, Richmond)
Montauk Region – Long Island (Nassau, Suffolk) plus Rockland and Westchester
Each region would have its own governor, legislature, and judicial system, with only a token state government to meet U.S. constitutional requirements.
Creating a new state would require:
A constitutional amendment in New York State.
Approval by a statewide vote in New York.
Congressional approval under the U.S. Constitution (Article IV, Section 3)
The tax structure would change. For the better? I doubt it, but we may enable an alternative for Alberta, CA to ponder.

Keep on rockin' in the free world

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  Don't forget to factor in NYC's current contributions to all of NY State...
  
  TyroneIrish26296 posts 12:00 pm on Oct 24, 2026
  
  ...be careful what you wish for...
  AI Overview
  Yes, tax revenue generated in New York City subsidizes the rest of New York State, including rural and Upstate counties, through state budget distributions.
  Key Facts on the Fiscal Flow
  • Revenue Contribution: New York City contributes between 46.7% and 54.5% of total state tax revenues (depending on how commuter income taxes are credited), while generating roughly 60.7% of the state's Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
  • State Operating Expenditures: New York City receives approximately 40.5% to 41.7% of state operating expenditures, while the rest of the state (including Upstate and rural regions) receives roughly 58.3% to 59.5%.
  • Net Transfer: Studies from the Rockefeller Institute of Government and joint research by CUNY and the Center for New York City Affairs show a net transfer of funds from Downstate (NYC and its suburbs) to Upstate and rural regions to balance state-administered services, education, healthcare, and infrastructure.
  • Forum Consensus: A general consensus among discussions on platforms like Reddit is that tax revenue from NYC helps fund public services and programs in economically struggling Upstate and rural counties.
  
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Is there some way we can call Bill Maher a "dumb phuck to his face"?

iairishcheeksOP30691 posts 2:16 am on Oct 24, 2026

This MAGAMoron thinks "socialism" is a problem. It's "democratic socialism", you dumb phuck!
Per quest: he doesn't deserve any of the limited brain cells he was luckily provided. MAGA has rotted his brain and he can't think for himself.
We don't use the s word without the d word. Repeat, like you're praying the rosary.
Link: https://youtu.be/3gNREfz1tGU?si=AZClc4vF8Q-4holg

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