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Chris, you never answered:Why do you think mail in ballots are necessary insteadof Absentee ballots?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:46 pm on Sep 1, 2020
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The former do not have the requirement of voter ID while the latter do. There are many states that require voter ID, and this would bypass those laws as constitutionally passed (a goal of the Left for many years).

I will not even delve into the innacuracies of the voter list or the potential for fraud and abuse. let's just focus on the absentee ballot issue.

For people who are afraid to go to the voting poll (which is utter bullshit by the way as we both agree), wny not use the absentee ballots as already available and far more secure?


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If we can shop at the grocery store, we can vote in person.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25810 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:19 am on Sep 2, 2020
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That's how I see it.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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We agree.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Sep 2, 2020
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And we can still have mail in ballots and early voting too - Won't that be exciting?

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:39 am on Sep 2, 2020
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No jim, he didn't say that.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Sep 2, 2020
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No, i said it. Is there an issue?

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 4:54 pm on Sep 2, 2020
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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They are all boarded up

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 am on Sep 2, 2020
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Chris and Conor... you won't answer the question. Why is requesting an absentee ballot

Author: IrishMac (1684 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Sep 2, 2020
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electronically not sufficient? Instead, you are proposing just automatically sending ballots to all registered voters... to whatever address is on file.

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Chris and Connor still mad the hope and change thing and HRC didn't work out, this is their hailMary

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 10:13 am on Sep 2, 2020
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I did answer. Have you heard about the pandemic we’re having?

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 am on Sep 2, 2020
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I bet we all know people - usually old people - who are barely leaving their houses. Irrational, but they can’t be talked out of their fear.

That’s why.

And you are misinformed about how it works. Secretaries of State across the country - including GOP ones - have universally asserted their accuracy and low fraud counts. Look it up.


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Applying for absentee is far less exposure than voting booth even. So your addressing the shut ins..

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:38 am on Sep 2, 2020
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......you want a massive and risky change for a small amount of people that are not drawn along party lines, but age and risk.

Would it not be more prudent to push fo absentee ballot acquisition accommodations for these few if this is really the Left’s concern?

Can you actually not see the absurdity of your claim:

“I don’t agree with them, but there are those who are afraid to peak out of their homes (except for the grocery store every week), and we have to change the whole system to accommodate them. This change will coincidentally eliminate voter ID across all 50 states which is only by luck related to the goal of my Dem party, and the fact that my opponents feel it opens up the doors for abuse is meaningless because we would never cheat”

And you expect us to buy this.


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Are we overhauling the whole system?

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:44 am on Sep 2, 2020
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Seems to me that we are just giving people a vote-by-mail option - which, as all secs of State say, is safe and fraud-free.

We are not mandating vote-by-mail. We are not overhauling anything, it seems to me.


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It’s silly to say it is fraud free, and all of this over a few shut ins- but a big ID bypass in the

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:54 am on Sep 2, 2020
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process.

Certainly, you could at least acknowledge that such a plan would be understandly troubling to your opponents the Republicans. If the shoe was on the other foot, you would also have concerns.


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This is my concern, Chris.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:00 am on Sep 2, 2020
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Link: https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

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Haven't you heard it's over?

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:16 am on Sep 2, 2020
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egq_BJBXkAEkCib?format=jpg&name=900x900

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He did answer. 1) There is a pandemic. 2) It is a distinction without a difference.

Author: conorlarkin (21004 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:22 am on Sep 2, 2020
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We forget that in your world, voting is a privilege.

My guess is that you typically wait less than 30 minutes in line to cast your vote at your polling station.

My guess is that you do not have to wait 8 hours in line and hire a babysitter to watch your kids after working an 8 hour shift at $15/hour.

My guess is that unlike trustworthy military personnel who cast their absentee ballots, you assume that the above single parent who follows her state’s mail in voting protocol is untrustworthy.

Keep guzzling Trump’s and Fox News’ snake oil.

Let’s make voting more difficult and more deadly during a pandemic. Never mind America’s exorbitant COVID death toll.


Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/18/whats-difference-between-absentee-mail-in-voting/

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Here you go. I’m sure you missed this posted below.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:11 am on Sep 2, 2020
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Link: https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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