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Food for thought on the electoral college

Author: Chris94 (36756 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:38 am on Sep 9, 2020
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And before you write it off as mere partisan tripe, remember this: Texas is turning blue. Maybe not in 2020, but soon. The demographics make it inevitable. And when that happens, the GOP will also be in favor of electoral college reform, since without it they will not win the presidency for generations.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/opinion/electoral-college-trump-biden.html

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Thread Level: 2

Inevitability is fickle. Identity groups can flip in an instant.

Author: Curly1918 (16452 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:31 am on Sep 9, 2020
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The electoral college is not about identity it is about avoiding what de Tocqueville called the Tyranny of the Majority. Having grown up out west decades ago I was always keenly aware of and resentful of the Eastern elites trying to impose their narrow minded views about EVERYTHING on the rest of the country. One size does not fit all... except in Mao's China and Pot Pol's Cambodia. What might work in Manhattan would be a disaster in Butte... especially given the state of the rotten apple today. Texas is changing... and it's disaffected Californians who are moving there... and Tex/Mex voters are a lot more conservative than the people of Boston.

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says the city mouse to the country mouse.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:06 am on Sep 9, 2020
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No way should we eliminate the EC. Imagine if the messes known as California and New York got to force their wisdom on us all!

Also, your claim that Texas turns blue assumes a stagnant field.
Have you read about the trends in Hispanic voting? I expect this with AA voting to a lesser extent as well.


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A buddy sent me this piece in defense of the college.

Author: conorlarkin (21017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 am on Sep 9, 2020
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Generally, the college makes sense.

Because of GOP orchestrated voter suppression in certain states, the college should only survive if the nation passes voting rights legislation (e.g. John Lewis House Bill).

Tired of GOP stealing states.


Link: https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/danger-attacks-electoral-college/

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Thanks for this...

Author: 86domer (667 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 am on Sep 9, 2020
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Thread Level: 3

I don’t know how the EC “prevents regionalism”

Author: Chris94 (36756 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:01 am on Sep 9, 2020
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Has that guy looked at a map? Is he suggesting that without the EC the south might be all red, and the northeast all blue?

Bookmark that guy in your mind. In 2030 he’ll be arguing the opposite.


Thread Level: 4

Without the EC, elections would be controlled by a select few urban areas.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:22 am on Sep 9, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I get your point, but at least it takes the fight to the swing states

Author: 86domer (667 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:32 am on Sep 9, 2020
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I think that argument could go either way and certainly today the system reinforces regionalism

- If I can't win in Texas (pick your state) then why should I even go there?"

I like the idea of forcing a national coalition to win an election but not sure the electoral college does that ... and also not sure that a popular vote would.


Thread Level: 2

Mere partisan tripe...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 am on Sep 9, 2020
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You’ll have to pry my Electoral College from my cold dead fingers.

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