The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST. Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2020
He has suggested the same in Michigan and Arizona.
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Is it legal to have the legislatures do what the OP is alleging he is doing?
That's the question Rooney asked me when I lamented MSM and Dem leadership calling for people to "move" to Georgia to vote in the runoff.
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Putin has elections. So does Maduro. And Erdogan.
Make no mistake: that is where we were heading if Trump had won.
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I was surprised to find out that you thought the election was fraudulent. (If Trump is a dictator, it must be fraudulent, no?)
OK, I agree my side did something bad....but so did yours! [or, usually: your side did something remotely similar, which I will twist to deflect this criticism]
Rather than:
My side did something bad. We should not let that happen.
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Almost all of your defenses are whatabout deflections.
Having said all of this, I would be happy if the moderators banned the word for a few months. Discourse would improve. The word was introduced to silence people. Elimination of that word would improve discussion.
and not for that purpose. Got it.
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... how you guys use it, then criticize others who use it. You say it is not a legitimate tactic, but you use it all the freakin' time.
The best way for me to make that point is to use it against you.
You use it as yer main line of defense and then criticize others when they use it. For someone who takes himself so seriously you engender a lot of snickers.
thread.
I'm fine with using the term "whataboutism" when it is used to expose hypocrisy.
I'm also fine with using the concept of "whataboutism" if one is arguing for a level playing field.
But, when people use the term to silence a defense of Trump, such as "You can't defend Trump doing X on the basis that Obama did X." ...well, that is bogus. If Obama did X and X was ok when he did it, then yes, it is ok for Trump to do it, unless and until the person saying that says they condemn Obama for doing X as well. Below, you tried to use it on me (what about Trump's pork spending, you said, to stop me from criticizing paying for gender studies degrees, something apparently very cherished by you), but I embraced the attack: I would cut all spending, not just the spending I think is moronic. Your attack failed. But, you probably didn't even notice.
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Not that you realized it, but my entire point in this thread is that your criticism of use of the phrase is the ultimate hypocrisy
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You demonstrate that often.
He needs to convince three states to ignore the voters and choose their own slate of electors. It is quite a long shot play.
And of course it is deeply, deeply corrosive to democratic norms. But he could not give two shits about this country and its traditions.
Which makes it amazing how so many people wrap themselves in the flag and vote for him. He made suckers and fools of them all.
against Trump rather than for Biden because of the pressure and threats from the far left. Moderate Democrats live in suburbs too.
Especially since much of the behavior of the Dems is deeply corrosive to democratic norms. But, setting aside the past 4 years of coup/resistance/insurance policies/lying to courts to surveil a campaign/etc.....
Do you think "moving" to Georgia to vote is deeply corrosive of democratic norms?
Do you think a state giving its electors to the candidate which lost the legitimate popular vote in that state is corrosive to democratic norms? Many Dem states have passed resolutions which would do this.