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Cutting off your nose to spite your face

Author: Curly1918  (18296 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 2:03 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Michigan's auto-economy is totally enmeshed with Ontario's.

El_Sayed could disclose that his endgame is Sharia Law and he'd still sweep the state if Trump severely damages our auto industry.

Maybe narcissists do ultimately commit suicide?


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-taunts-canada-renaming-lake-ontario-lake-america-amid-rising-border-trade-rift

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Said it before. They always need a bad guy.

Author: Rooney  (6030 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:09 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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This week it is Canada.

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"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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What has El-Sayed said regarding Sharia Law?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7977 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 3:54 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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One wonders why US companies were sending auto jobs to Canada...

Author: NedoftheHill  (47351 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:06 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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...and whether it makes sense to undo the incentives which caused that to occur in the first place.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Cheaper labor, closer to raw materials, satisfying a market of almost 2M new cars per year.

Author: Rooney  (6030 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:18 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Off the top of my head.

"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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And governments need to take action to lessen that effect.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47351 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 7:00 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The unit labor cost gap has shrunk, which is the metric that matters.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30383 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:26 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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They don’t pay for medical in Canada.

Author: PaND  (3358 Posts - Joined: Dec 5, 2022)
Posted at 5:27 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Probably saves $10/hr.

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Undoing this "arrangement" would be like separating conjoined twins.

Author: Curly1918  (18296 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 2:21 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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It would b

Link: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-american-cars-made-canada-henry-imbriaco-ytskc/

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A lot of that supports my point. Bring the jobs back to the US.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47351 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 3:40 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You gonna work the line at the new local assembly plant, Ned?

Author: Rooney  (6030 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:07 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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There are almost 500,000 unfilled manufacturing jobs right now in the US. You don't have enough of a labor force to fill the current job vacancies but you want to add more? Roll up yer sleeves and grab a wrench!

Everybody wants to add more manufacturing jobs. Not for themselves, mind you. For others.


"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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Where did you get that stat?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47351 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 6:53 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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I know of several companies who were sending jobs to China, but tariffs have kept manufacturing lines running in the US.

As a country, we have been sending far too many people to college, and even subsidizing our universities to provide useless degrees. Our behavior has to change. Our worship of hobby degrees which cost $250k, but which have zero return on investment...needs to stop. Auto industry, semiconductor industry ... these jobs need to come back to the US. If there are that many positions to fill, then it is time to offer higher wages.

Just had a handyman/remodeler at the house this morning. Guy was in his 20s. He did a great job. Not too long ago, any person like that would have been 50 years old.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The mfg vacancy rate in the US is roughly equivalent to the pre-tariff vacancy rate in Canada.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30383 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:17 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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Skilled trade shortages, retirements and desire to work remotely by the younger generations are driving both.

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Yup.

Author: Rooney  (6030 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:21 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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I'm not sure the reshoring argument is about adding more manufacturing jobs. But it sells.

"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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It should be, if it isn't. What do you think it is about?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47351 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 6:56 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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By the way, I've also seen Canadian jobs going to China.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Reshoring + Automation is the play.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30383 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:29 pm on Aug 25, 2026
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But I am still not sure what most humans are going to do as AI and automation take over as they are doing rapidly at the moment.


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