Is the US Athens and China Sparta, as Xi implied? I feel he misses the point. Yes, Sparta had the better military and won the Peloponnesian war, but was an autocratic, repressively rigid society that ultimately faded into obscurity. Athens's influence has reverberated through the centuries and even its ruins remain monumental.
Trump missed his opportunity for a clever rejoinding insult... if he even understood Xi's point.
Thucydides said that the real cause of the war was the rise of Athens and the fear that generated in Sparta. The “Thucydides Trap” refers to the high chance of war that accompanies a rising power challenging a dominant one. It has nothing to do with domestic regime type.
its ultimate undoing and relegated its influence to a very brief time and location... whereas Athen's influence reverberates worldwide through the centuries.
Culturally, the US is Athens and China is Sparta.
From your Wikipedia source:
A number of scholars have criticized the application of the Thucydides trap to US–China relations. Lawrence Freedman, writing in Prism, the National Defense University's journal of complex operations, has similarly argued that "China's main interest has always been its regional position, and if that is the case, then there are strong arguments for it to show patience, as its economic pull becomes progressively stronger."
Hu Bo, a professor at Peking University's Institute of Ocean Research and one of China's foremost naval strategists, has also said that he does not believe the current balance of power between the United States and China supports the Thucydides hypothesis
accept who we're dealing with...'Hensou' checks all the boxes...
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Historically, psychoanalytic theory notes that these traits often come with a baseline level of reserve and suspiciousness toward others' motives. In a modern context, this means they may view constructive feedback not as an attempt to help, but as a sign of hostility, micromanagement, or a lack of respect for their hard work
Political Science focusing on Foreign Policy, have taught at the Naval War College, and written numerous books on the subject.
Not even Boris Johnson has the chops to be the final word on it.
Trump is basically setting up spheres of regional dominance, and is acting in a manner consistent with Xi's point. China is an engineering and manufacturing powerhouse, BUT unlike the USA coming out of WW2, isn't exporting culture to go along with its wares, nor is it militarily aggressive. So, I can see a period of a couple decades of relatively peaceful and prosperous co-existence until the USA falls through internal sloth and moral decay.
