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Energy Sec Jennifer Clown-Car Granholm on the Biden Administration energy policy.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:50 am on Jun 16, 2022
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Totally coherent policy. Bravo!

Invest in more output right this second, but have that investment disappear in five years. Maybe a few paper mache cracking units at the Valero refinery?

#ThePros


Link: https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1537214216989552641?s=20&t=wliJBPDLs0hixyhc4xu3pQ

Replies to: Energy Sec Jennifer Clown-Car Granholm on the Biden Administration energy policy.


Thread Level: 2

Somehow you, and many others, need to come to grips with Climate Change...until that happens, you'll

Author: TyroneIrish (19709 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:30 pm on Jun 16, 2022
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be a drag on actions that need to be taken...we cannot lose sight of the primary objective...i.e. shifting as quickly as possible away from the burning of Fossil Fuels...while at the same time dealing with short term energy shortages which are by definition Fossil Fuel based.

What is holding you back from accepting the reality of Climate Change?...perhaps I can help you.


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Tell it to Granholm and Biden

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:56 pm on Jun 16, 2022
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They're the ones pushing self contradictory dumbass policies.

Thread Level: 4

Step 1...do you see the need to shift our energy strategy away from using Fossil Fuels for heat and

Author: TyroneIrish (19709 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Jun 16, 2022
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power wherever possible?

btw, the attached article should be of help.


Link: https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/sustainability/our-insights/climate-risk-and-response-physical-hazards-and-socioeconomic-impacts

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Isn’t she the one heavily invested in EV charging companies?

Author: TampaIrish (11369 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:20 am on Jun 16, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 3

not anymore, she cashed in her options for a cool $1.6MM. Amazing how well our representatives time

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Jun 16, 2022
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the market.

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Pure coincidence. These people are Patriots who really care about the every day American.

Author: TampaIrish (11369 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 am on Jun 16, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Blama Canada!

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33386 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:18 am on Jun 16, 2022
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Granholm is one of theirs...

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Board violation. Bringing up Granholm causes BVZ's JG-PTSD to flare up.

Author: Cole (16134 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:01 am on Jun 16, 2022
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Tyrone would hit that.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:06 am on Jun 16, 2022
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https://townsquare.media/site/656/files/2018/09/Granholm-mouth-opened-Getty-Images-by-Chip-Somodevilla-.jpg

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Not his type. Anyway he and Jim are busy working on the Zapruder film of 1/6.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:30 am on Jun 16, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Take your partisan hat off, what exactly did she say that is wrong/bad?

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:00 am on Jun 16, 2022
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Not sure if you are familiar with the capital infrastructure in a refinery?

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:03 am on Jun 16, 2022
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You can't build something that will only work for a year or two. It's all made of steel to exacting tolerances in order to keep the whole operation from exploding in a giant fireball.

Thread Level: 4

I played it back and didn't hear her mention building any new refineries. This is all BS IMO

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:18 am on Jun 16, 2022
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We had the same number of refineries in this country when gas prices were low, moderate and high. The problem is we consume too much and these companies want to make a buck. Why we can't explore getting off fossil fuels is mindboggling. Apparently when it comes to energy we are the epitome of crazy (doing the same thing and expecting different results).

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"What we are saying is, we need that supply increased now"

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:26 am on Jun 16, 2022
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And then host nicely clarifies the inconsistency: to paraphrase...Oil companies are saying, "Hey, you want us to increase investment now when administration policy indicates that is a bad investment in five years time?"

Thread Level: 6

I get you being obstinate but again she didn't say build squat.

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:38 am on Jun 16, 2022
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People who only want to speak with political spin say regulation is causing the refinery shortage, but this graph shows how steady it's been the last 40 years.

Link: https://www.statista.com/statistics/265273/oil-refinery-capacity-in-the-united-states/

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Refineries are running at 94% right now. That is essentially full capacity.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:54 am on Jun 16, 2022
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It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out that what she is asking for is unattainable without new investment. Try to think about this as if you had ever taken an economics course or something.

Thread Level: 4

Why waste yr time with him

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:07 am on Jun 16, 2022
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"No one is past redemption": The Bible, somewhere (probably)

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:16 am on Jun 16, 2022
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Thread Level: 2

She and Kerry are a danger to the future of America. She, especially, is one of the bigger dips

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 am on Jun 16, 2022
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hits in government.

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