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What are your thoughts on Mormonism?

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25817 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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I recently finished Under The Banner of Heaven, and they dipped into the founding story of that religion a bit.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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Lots of m’s and o’s. The r and n must be lonely. Might they be compatible?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:04 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Utah fans were great at that game in 2011 or whenever.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:43 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Drank like fish on the bus from Chicago. I guess they hung up the rules for a day or two.

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lots of attractive women in slc,

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:29 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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No different than any religion. All based on fairy tales to appease the masses.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Most who follow a religion want to be good people but are led astray by ignorant zealots.

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Religion is simultaneously a reenactment of our infancy and a desperate attmeot to find meaning.

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:10 am on Jun 23, 2022
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Your marxist foolishness reminds me of wisdom on Mens bathroom stall at Hesburgh Library on 2ndfloor

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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circa 1982

Line 1: "God is dead" - Nietzsche
Line 2: "Nietzsche is dead" - God.


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Before you get too judgmental, Baron...it's not unreasonable for people to have doubts...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:01 am on Jun 23, 2022
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even the renowned...and to the best of my knowledge "Non-Marxist"...Carl Sagan...had some thoughts on this...read a few of his notes from the link.

A bit early in the game for any one religion to be staking out "BFF" status with God when so many people of different faiths - or no faith - would qualify as "Saints" had they been baptized in the Catholic Church.


Link: https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1816628-pale-blue-dot-a-vision-of-the-human-future-in-space

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"All based on fairy tales" is where you meant to direct this if your concern is based on being too

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 am on Jun 23, 2022
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judgmental.

It was a pompous statement designed to provoke. Nocal's M.O.

No doubt you would direct him to C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity...


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Nice people from my experience. Religion is nutty AF.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:01 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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To answer more directly, most of my exposure to Mormons was in ElDorado county in NorCal

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:46 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Mostly really nice people. A little bit clique-ish.
My daughter (Catholic at the time—pretty much agnostic now) went to public school with a lot of Mormons. (Same school district as Ian Book, but about a decade earlier.)

Some of her friends tried to introduce her to it, but the parents never really pushed on us. She even went to a few events.

The Mormons all seemed to do business with one another. For example, if one had a tire store, all the Mormons would go there. I think there was some preferential pricing or treatment that was not explicit, but certainly evident.


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If you’ve never watched the HBO series “Big Love”—It is worth watching a few episodes.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:28 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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I found it funny.

Also available for purchase on Amazon Prime now.

My daughter just discovered it, and has had it on in her home studio recently.


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Thoughts? I just hope we beat them in Vegas on October 8th.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 6:06 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Roger that!

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Nearly all organized religions are goofy to the objective, rational minded.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:48 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Sure, some are goofier, such as Mormonism, but catholics don't have a ton of room to talk.

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"Cult" is too strong a word, especially because the Mormons I know are very decent people.

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:03 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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We just watched the show on Hulu, as a buddy had praised the Krakauer book. Homicides are a true story.

Mitt Romney is very typical of the Mormons I have met -- industrious, family oriented, kind, unselfish, bright, law abiding, and easy to like. [They do kick up a good chunk of their quid to their minders ... sort of like the mob, but OK.]

My sense is that the Mormons have evolved into a religion that resembles many other Protestant religions. But, as the TV series presents, the Mormons have seemingly figured out how to march on, notwithstanding that their founder was a fraud/snake oil salesman, who after being killed, was followed by a rapist. How does one attend Brigham Young and turn a blind eye that its founder liked having sex with teenage girls, all in the name of their faith? Weird.

Love the scene where Joseph Smith is called out by his wife for cheating, and Joseph says, "I had a a vision that God wants my to have multiple wives." The wife replies, "Funny ... I had the same vision commanding me to have multiple husbands." She was then told doing so would require blood atonement -- death .... meaning, "Shut your whore mouth!"


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The believers tend to be very decent and hardworking people.

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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The metaphysics is... "different."

The core belief is that we are evolving as individuals (as compared to as a species).

The key saying is "As man is, God once was and as God is, man shall become."

They beleive that marriage is forever... even after death.

They have the world's greatest geneology resources because they marry off their ancestors who died before the founding for eternity in the Temple.

The men wear "garments" under their clothes... which are a bit like one piece long underwear.

The women emphasize beauty and BYU coeds are among the hottest anywhere.

Their church tends to be their life.


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I know one wife is plenty...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:23 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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^^^Tru Dat^^^

Author: JarHead4ND (4262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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That’s a good book

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:18 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Mormon fundamentalists are as wacko as all other fundamentalists. Maybe more so.

Overall the religion is a bit screwy, but I’ve met plenty of perfectly nice, normal Mormons.

The Book of Mormon, though, is the only musical worth spending Broadway prices to see.


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The actual Book of Mormon is unreadable and incredible.

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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It'a a story about how Jesus came to the Americas after he rose from the dead and converted Native Americans who later lost the faith or died out.

Mormon was an angel/Indian who told this story to Joseph Smith in a vision in upstate New York in the 19th century.

Ironically, the original Mormons were communists and were persecuted for this {now they are supercapitalists and the richest religion per capita in the country).

They got chased out whereever they went and their men slaughtered, which is why they adopted polygamy to deal with all the widows).

They also became racists while living in Missouri during the border wars as a defense (they claimed black skin was the mark of Cain) to no avail as they got chsed out there as well.

They "evolved" this position after they began converting so many mixed folk in the 1970s.

They only denounced polygamy so that Utan could become a state.


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You are now dead to Conor

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Jun 22, 2022
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Hamilton?!?!?

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