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Ty's Reuters "fact" check on U.K. vaccine death rates is factually wrong. Here's the proof

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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I linked to U.K. government data showing people who were vaccinated against Covid were more likely to die from Covid than were the unvaccinated. Ty came back with a Reuters "fact" check saying that while it was true last September 1,272 out 1,521 Covid deaths in the 80+ age group (total population 3,375,400) were vaccinated, the rate of death for this age group was 156 per 100,000 unvaccinated vs. 49.5 per 100,000 fully vaccinated.

Someone at Reuters is flat-out lying. The "fact" check at the time said 59.5% were fully vaccinated and 64.9% had received one dose. Well, let's use the 64.9% figure to make this more favorable to the "fact" check and do some math. Even then, the death rate during that period was 58.1 per 100,000 vaccinated vs. 21 per 100,000 unvaccinated.

So Ty, how do you explain Reuters flat-out lying about this?


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I just can't shake the knowledge that since vaccines became available, upwards of 98% of the

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:29 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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patients in ICUs have been unvaccinated...we no longer have refrigerated trailers outside hospitals acting as morgues...even now, scores of vaccinated and boosted people have contracted COVID without any of them ending up in the hospital (see D.C. gatherings...and Dr. Fauci), let alone an ICU...

The evidence is staring you in the face...every day...just stop with the bogus claims that vaccines don't work...or even more bizarre, that they cause disease...none of it is true, Mark.

A question for you...why are you doing this?


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I'll answer...and here's my questions to you

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:51 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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My questions first. Doesn't it bother you that the Reuters "fact" check article is blatantly false? Doesn't it bother you a supposed reputable news organization is lying? More importantly, doesn't the actual U.K. data give you pause? Why is the U.K. data so different than what our data allegedly is? Doesn't that puzzle you or give you pause?

As for my motives, the more I learn, the more afraid of these mRNA vaccines I become. Even Chris admitted Dr. Robert Malone should at least be listened to. More and more reports are coming out about the complete lack of efficacy of the vaccines. We hear from actuaries about increased, unexplained death rate increases. We hear about an abnormal percentage of young healthy and vaccinated athletes having unexplained problems. Your hero the Great Fauchino and the rest of the pro-vax community keep changing definitions and moving goalposts after what they previously tell us turns out to be 100% wrong. The FDA receives lots of funding from Big Pharma. Finally, the only "debunking" of hydroxychloroquine+ are studies that are not even close to parallel to the way it's supposed to be used.

I pray I did not do the wrong thing by participating in the Pfizer trial and getting vaccinated and boosterU.K


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Mark, as I have mentioned multiple times...I have two family members who deal with COVID every day..

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:06 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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an Infectious Disease Doc and a Pulmonary/Critical Care (i.e. ICU) Doc...and they are part of much larger organizations and cohorts with whom they communicate...I trust them...and they trust the vaccines...end of story.

We know for a fact that there is rampant misinformation being spread about, so it does not surprise me that you could have been sucked into that vortex...you don't have the luxury of first hand information that I do which can alleviate your concerns.

As for Dr. Malone...I "listened" to him as well...and listened to others who have been close to him...they explained their views of his work and his claims, and expressed their dismay that he has become almost a 'Pariah' within the scientific community...it happens.

Regarding the efficacy of our vaccines...you know that COVID-19 has mutated several times...possibly hundreds of times, with some notable variants (Delta and Omicron), and Omicron has become exceedingly transmissible, even to those who have been vaccinated and boosted...BUT, the primary function of a vaccine...i.e. to minimize severe outcomes...has remained very effective...I have an 80+ yr old friend with a few 'health issues' who just this week came down with COVID (increasing fever, dry cough, colorful sputum, fatigue)...but because he is vaxed and boosted, he's already getting better and participated in a Zoom call this afternoon. Had he not been vaxed/boosted, his story could very well be headed in the other direction.

With regard to 'Pharma' and your implied dirty dealing...a vax shot costs $15.00...hospital stays cost from $30,000 (non-complex) to $450,000 (complex)...'Pharma' is to be praised to the heavens for keeping costs DOWN.

COVID is still 'out there', so tell all your friends who haven't gotten vaccinated to do the smart thing...i.e. trust the Docs who deal with this pandemic daily...and stop taking up bed space that Non-COVID patients need.

And for you...thanks very much for participating in that trial...you did the right thing.


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Yes Sisyphus, is there a point where you will figure it out?

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:45 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Or do we have to endure this everyday with you?

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Well, what's YOUR opinion on the UK data and the false Reuters fact check?

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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