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Where is the language in 2A and/or 14A that deals with concealed carry as a right?

Author: Quest4twelve (6682 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Where is says “the right to keep and bear arms”. Conceal and carry is bearing an arm.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59912 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:58 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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By the way, if you want to be a strict textualist, I will totally meet you there. Do you feel lucky?

Author: NedoftheHill (44669 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Something tells me you will run away, and post later about a living breathing constitution. You don't really want to be limited to the text on your own issues, do you. No, I know you don't. Progressives hate the Constitution, and work constantly to get away from the limiting text.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I'm quoting Clearance Thomas. So where is it?

Author: Quest4twelve (6682 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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So, are you a textualist or not? Are all government powers defined (and limited) by the text?

Author: NedoftheHill (44669 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:28 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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If so, we can have a long conversation about a lot of things the Federal government has done since the New Deal. You would lose on 90% of them. I'm willing to give up my 10%. Are you willing to give up your 90%?

Somehow, I suspect you are going to fight a limited fight on this one issue, and then reverse yourself later. Nice talkin' to ya.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Crickets chirping.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59912 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:38 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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He ran away, as predicted.

Author: NedoftheHill (44669 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Jun 24, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Questy's not the brightest.

Author: Cole (16182 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:10 am on Jun 24, 2022
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Here.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59912 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:01 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=83465

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Jim4twelve? Run like a bitch? Never.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Where is the language in the 1st Amd about separation of church & state? The Internet? Pornography?

Author: NedoftheHill (44669 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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where does it state a woman can kill an unborn baby.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:09 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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You have issues, but you already know this.

Author: Quest4twelve (6682 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:13 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Do you agree that abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution? More importantly...

Author: NedoftheHill (44669 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Privacy is not in the Constitution, which was how SCOTUS got to abortion, and condoms in the first place. They created rights that "emanated" from the Constitution but were not mentioned in the text. By the time they got there, they were several steps away from the Constitutional text.

Same with gun control, which all hinges on the Commerce Clause. SCOTUS has finally been reigning that in during the past 25 years.

At least gun rights have a specific amendment.

SCOTUS has always generally frowned on restrictions that effectively take away the key aspects of the right...such that one could say they don't really have the right anymore. For example, the restrictions on gun owners in New York would never pass muster if they applied to free speech or the free practice of religion. Imagine having to get a permit to pray from local government.


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“The 2nd amendment is not a secondary right” - Clarence Thomas paraphrased.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59912 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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Zygote monomaniacs are so charming, aren’t they?

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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They bring me right in with their conveyances. Just can't wait to read more. "What's yer favorite

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Jun 23, 2022
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color?

How dare you give women the choice - it's baby killing!"


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