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Speaking of Biden - Nice speech today, dude!

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Holy Hell!

Link: https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1545453047551328257?s=20&t=0fnhVhdIMbjn_-v8LaUIdA

Replies to: Speaking of Biden - Nice speech today, dude!


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Seems to me like "fastest way to restore woe" is the headliner.

Author: iairishcheeks (27174 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Jul 9, 2022
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Foster Brooks needs four more years!!

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 6:36 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Can he run another basement campaign? We need another pandemic!

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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For those with an attention span greater than 21 seconds...here's the full speech...

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Biden summarized the impact of Roe's overturning on women all over the country, both today and for the future...he outlined his Executive Order and signed it.

Handled it very well and got the message across clearly...especially to the women of America...

But if you're the kind of viewer who is easily duped with a spliced and doctored video...like the recent "...He put the Medal of Honor on Backwards!" clip...you'll jove this one.


Link: https://youtu.be/PeVZzLzbeKA

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He spent more time eulogizing Robert Byrd. As far as his insurrectionist speech about SCOTUS today,

Author: JarHead4ND (4264 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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he mislead people as to the ruling. The court's opinion did not say that abortion was illegal, it did not say that abortion was legal, what it did say was that there is nothing in the Constitution that either supports or denies abortion. Thereby, it is a matter for the states pursuant to the 10th Amendment or the congress.
I am not going to argue the policy issue; the SCOTUS does not and cannot make policy, but the fact is that one party holds the power of two of the three equal branches and that party holds the presidency, the house and the senate.
I think his calling out the SCOTUS as making bad policy is as much as calling for insurrection in that the SCOTUS is a co-equal branch of government. He is saying that the SCOTUS has done something that it does not have the power or authority to perform, that is a far cry from our system and setting policy is not within the realm of the SCOTUS.

All of you folks have a nice weekend and those of you in NYC stay alert around those Bodegas.


Link: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/realitycheck/the-press-office/remarks-president-and-vice-president-a-memorial-service-senator-robert-c-byrd

No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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Not being a lawyer, I note that before Jun. 24th, abortion was legal throughout the U.S., now it's

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:46 am on Jul 9, 2022
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not...I have to believe that the those six Justices did their homework and were aware of why Roe v. Wade came to be...i.e. pure chaos amongst the states, with essentially zero chance of getting a legislated compromise...they knew what they were doing...they have consigned all females in this country today...and in for generations to come...to a life of fear...don't try to put lipstick on this one.

Our SCOTUS is paid to make wise judgements for the benefit of the entire country...they chose "Poorly".


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Well said! Have a great weekend!

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:50 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You have to admit that 21 seconds is funny as shit

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 5:42 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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If you have no interest in the content of the speech...whatever gets you through the day ;-).

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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It must be tough for the guy who was going to unite the country to turn out to be a disaster.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 5:50 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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I'm not sure if you recently awoke from a coma, but Joe Biden's entire public life has included

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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a looooong string of "Malapropisms"...it's who he is and always has been...largely due to his having to deal with a stuttering problem...

btw, the American public was able to see these slips in speech when he was V.P. for eight years...yet they chose him to be President by 7M votes!...where have you been all this time? ;-)...are you just a slow learner?


Link: https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=598354

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You’re in total denial. Needed a notecard to tell him how to enter a room, where to sit and what

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 6:21 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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reporters to call on has nothing to do with a stutter. Keep telling yourself everything is normal.

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LOL…I’ve asked for corroboration on that one…crickets…

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:34 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Lacking that, it’s just like the “HE PUT THE MEDAL ON BACWARDS!!” clip…

You are an easy mark…no effort required to pull you in.


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Haven’t heard anyone say it was photoshopped but you.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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We all saw the video and photos. Perhaps you took the day off.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:48 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Ok, I'm back...let's start with you, Ned...did you watch my full length video of the MOH ceremony vs

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:06 am on Jul 9, 2022
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the clip that so many here were guffawing about?...proven fraudulent...a bunch of folks here fell for it...case closed on that one.

As for the "Cue Card" photo...after watching so many of Joe's speeches, press conferences and interviews, with no tele-prompters, he's consistently given. cogent responses w/o any "Cue Cards" either...today's speech was solid as well with appropriate emphasis, etc...now you want me to believe he needs a cue card to navigate and speak?...btw, we all agree that "card" would be incredibly insulting to anyone...and you believe, after all I've referenced, that Joe mindlessly accepts that insolent "YOU" all over the card?...my logic tells me "NO"...your desire to throw whatever 'Shade' you can find on him...accurate or not (e.g. the MOH clip)...says you don't care if it's true or not....or....someone is trying to "get even" for the Guardian's expose of Trump's "Cue Card"...(see link)...or someone is making a business out of selling their services to 'both sides' ...who knows what's going on with that.

But that's just my take on this little distraction from a notable Executive Order Biden signed dealing with a super serious issue.

btw, I did take part of the day off...I feel my new swing thought is going to work just fine.


Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/22/i-hear-you-trump-uses-cue-cards-to-remind-him-to-listen-to-shooting-survivors

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Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:00 am on Jul 9, 2022
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He still doesn't believe hunters laptop is a true story

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 7:17 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Or that Sammy diddles little boys. He's insane.

"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Three words..."Chain of Custody"...ask any of the attorneys on this board what that means for Hunter

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:15 am on Jul 9, 2022
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Biden's laptop...plus the forensic analysis that was done by the NY Times, I believe...I'll give you an "A+" for 'dogged' persistence ;-).

As for Sam and his dogs...have you found any convictions for pedophilia yet?


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Don't need to ask. You should stick with "not being a lawyer..."

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:31 am on Jul 9, 2022
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I have a feeling the reality of the laptop is going to become very clear to you after the midterms. The press is starting to ask questions about it now.

He supports a pedo website. Again....midterms.


"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Translation: "I don't want to find out I'm wrong about Hunter's laptop"...anyone who refuses to

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:22 am on Jul 9, 2022
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investigate a legitimate concern like "Chain of Custody", which btw, was emphasized in the NYT series on this issue, demonstrates a lack of "Intellectual Integrity"...but then I'm guessing you don't know what that is either and won't research it...others who read this thread, however, probably know both terms already and can form their own opinion of you...you don't have to be this way...all it takes is a willingness to learn more than you currently know, or believe.

Now, as for Sam Brinton and "Rentboy"...you need to read his Op-Ed...all of it...and when you do, you'll get a glimpse of what life is like for today's LGBTQ community. The center point of all things LGBTQ is "SEX"...it would be very nice if it weren't, but it is, and Sam being quite public about his own situation empathizes with the plight of fellow 'members'. When sex is involved, there's going to be the 'baggage' of "Sex Work", or prostitution...even in the 'Straight' community (see link)...so, it gets "complicated"...note that even in the U.S., prostitution is legal and regulated in Nevada.

No one on the sexual preference spectrum should ever support 'sex trafficking'...i.e. coercion and control of unwilling participants...on that score, Sam noted in the Op-Ed that he didn't know if the website had broken the law...the fact that he mentions this caveat implies he would not support it...and turned his focus on the 'real world' as he sees and knows it for LGBTQ "young adults"...his term.

My take from his Op-Ed is that the "Root Cause" for LGBTQ young adults getting caught up in such behavior is because their families have rejected them and left them virtually no other option...maybe you can shed some light on that opinion.

Bottom line...Sam Brinton is a very smart and successful nuclear technologist who has never harmed anyone...and no matter how hard you try, you'll never be able to disprove those facts...hating and discriminating won't make you or the situation any better.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_law

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Don't you think it's strange that none of yr board homies

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:42 pm on Jul 9, 2022
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has jumped in to support you in yr strange and perverted mission to make this fruit cake sound normal? He's not.You appear to be on yr own supporting Sammie. This, along with yr already expressed pedo views, have put u in place where no one cares what u say on talk nearly anything.Pick a different hill to make yr stand on

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Why are people investigating the laptop then Ty?

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 11:55 am on Jul 9, 2022
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If it's a complete fake. You're insane. And you enable pedophiles. This is what Chris does. Don't attack the proof. Attack who gave you the proof. You're wrong.

"Hunter Biden's team has produced no evidence of alterations to the drives that have leaked.

Several news outlets, including the New York Times and the Washington Post, have reported in recent months that they have authenticated some of the files and correspondence contained on the laptop that made news in 2020."


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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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re: Hunter's laptop...

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Jul 9, 2022
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Haven't really heard much about that recently...except from you ;-).., the NYT forensic analysis did indeed find verifiable data from him...BUT...they also found large volumes of material that are UNACCOUNTED for...plus files that had been added AFTER the laptop had been "turned over"...are those files Hunter's?...or are they the work of "saboteurs" bent on creating a false narrative? That's the problem...some person, or persons were messing with that laptop, and that makes the whole 'caper' very suspicious...ergo, the term "Chain of Custody"...

You'd do well to wait for the FBI to finish their work...but of course that's not going to happen...just thought I'd help you...and others have a fuller understanding.


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He thinks Ike started the Vietnam war. JFK and LBJ blameless.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:48 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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He is an obvious parody account. Mindless idiocy and links.

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I've got a challenge for you, Iggs...dig up that thread and read it...better yet, post it and let's

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:32 am on Jul 9, 2022
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all see what I actually said...(hint: dated 4/22/2022...time: 8:15pm)

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Repeat the line.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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The one about terminating the presidency.

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Feel free to judge on style and diction...I'm way more interested in SUBSTANCE...something that is

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:44 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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woefully lacking with many anti-Biden posters here. Joe's understanding of the damage being done, along with the options available to him, as well as his obvious commitment to resolving the issue is fully apparent to me...very glad he's in the Oval Office.

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I'm judging on obvious mental incompetence, not style or diction.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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The dude is a mess. Everyone can see it. His decline is accelerating in front of our eyes.

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No you're not...don't be coy.

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:04 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Where the hell is the District of Cumbia?

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 4:51 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Kumbaya?

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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He is a silver tongued devil

Author: LanceManion (7944 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:24 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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“Repeat the line” Reading teleprompter instructions again.Who is really in charge?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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"Repeat the line" Amazing. Millions of mens and womens need to vote this fall.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Joe's going to get a visit from the Secret Service over this "terminate the presidency" malarkey.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Aide: Dammit! We have to go back to those laminated cards again.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:32 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Whoa! (v. Raid)

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:59 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Hard to take any of you seriously when you supported this guy.

Author: jimbasil (52638 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Ninny 45.




Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The lefties are embarrassed and striking out against the Rs.

Author: ELP (9580 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 4:14 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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"Don't blame us.". I should copyright that. It has a nice ring.

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Whatabout Trump. Every damn day!

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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I’m not countering his post - I’m simply stating his outrage can’t be taken

Author: jimbasil (52638 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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seriously when Ninny 45 issues were just fine.
I’m not changing the issue and I’m not defending Biden. He’s always had mic moments.

Also,
Let’s get on the same page with a definition of “Whataboutism”.

what·a·bout·ism
/ˌ(h)wədəˈboudizəm/
noun
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
"the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Thanks for the defo. You demonstrated it perfectly with your response about trump.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 5:13 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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"the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue."

You realize of course this is precisely what you did? You're a funny dude some times, so I'm just gonna chalk this up to your dry sense of humor.

I hope you're having a wonderful day Jim. Have a good weekend!


"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Why did u call him a dude? We don't know how he identifies, and he has feelings too

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:48 pm on Jul 9, 2022
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Outrage? More bemusement at this point.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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I wonder if Barcera and Harris were briefed to maintain a stone face no matter what the fuck Joe says?

This guy is mentally debilitated. It is obvious to the entire world. I suspect Democrats won't start to panic about it until after they get absolutely demolished in November.


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No he’s not. I guess I should just post, “Every Day” and be done with it.

Author: jimbasil (52638 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Just post "every time".

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Joe doesn't appear every day. But he does look like a doddering moron "every time" he is allowed to appear.

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He accuses everyone of rage. It's another of his tells when he's stuck.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Just kinda shrug at this point. No harm done....

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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Every day…

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Every Day all day. You should be used to it by now, gup.

Author: jimbasil (52638 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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It’s hard to take you seriously when the guy you voted for needed a notecard telling him whee to

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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enter a room and sit. Also on what reporters to call on. His team knows he’s a disaster that’s why they do this. Not really too tough to figure out.

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YOU take YOUR seat, dummy.

Author: Cole (16189 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 2:34 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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End of quote.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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( Read next line, NOW )

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Him saying end of quote is funny. Reading “repeat the line” is even better.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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You think they would have learned by now only put what you want him to read. He literally reads

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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everything.

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The Pros….

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Wow

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:26 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Biden: the master of malaprops. Fucking hilarious!

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Joe says:

1. " To seek to terminate the presidency and maybe save your life."
Please, Joe, terminate your presidency and save our lives. 🤣

2. " The fastest way to restore Woe."

Elmer " Fucking " Fudd strikes again. It's " Roe ", Joe, not " Woe."🤣

But you're right. You are the fastest way to restore woe. Everything you have done has caused us woe. 😜


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His people long ago discovered "the fastest way to install woe."

Author: MAS (21462 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Republicans up to Republican tactics. Have fun with your no nothing, idea party!

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 2:05 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:53 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Posting video of Biden speaking is a dirty trick? I suppose it could be.

Author: MAS (21462 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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BTW, it's "know nothing." "No nothing" would actually mean "something."

The odd thing to me is that folks like you could maintain all the beliefs you have, but still acknowledge this guy is a declining, demented old fool. How bad do you want this to get? Imagine how he'll be in another year, if he makes it another year?


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Gas could be 10 bucks a gallon and inflation 25 % and the quintet on here will still support him and

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 2:51 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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talk about Trump.

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End of quote. Repeat the line.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 2:08 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Women want to terminate the presidency? Tens of millions of womens.

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Bwahahahahaha....leader of the free world!

Author: Frankx (5317 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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Japan - the inventor of the Samurai sword - has never had a weapon used to murder anyone until today

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Jul 8, 2022
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