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UnVaxxed COVID Patients less contageous than Vaxxed..New England Journal of Medecine

Author: lmcdonald (1249 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 4:38 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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Has anything they have told us about this damn affliction actually been true.
1) If you get the Vax your won't get Covid...Wrong
2) If you get the Vax you can't transmit Covid... Very Wrong
3) Natural Immunity is not effective... Wrong again
4) The vaccines are safe and effective?????
We are truly a Ship of Fools


Link: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/stunning-new-england-journal-medicine-unvaxxed-covid-patients-contagious-less-time-vaxxed-covid-patients/

Replies to: UnVaxxed COVID Patients less contageous than Vaxxed..New England Journal of Medecine


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Nope

Author: blowfish (1088 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:04 am on Jul 27, 2022
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"we did not find large differences in the median duration of viral shedding among participants who were unvaccinated, those who were vaccinated but not boosted, and those who were vaccinated and boosted"

Link: NEJM

Thread Level: 3

Clearly you didn't see Figure 1D,E. The lines and numbers are so sharply clear between unvaxxxed and

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:16 am on Jul 27, 2022
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Vaxxed/boosted.

Let me copy the D numbers at 5 days and 10 days below
Time to pcr conversion
5 days
Unvaxxxed: 14
Vaxxed: 34
Boosted: 11

10 days
Unvaxxxed: 5
Vaxxed: 26
Boosted: 8

So, these numbers means, after 10 days, only 5 unvaxxxed need to continue quarantine. But 26 vaxxed need to continue quarantine and 8 boosted need to continue quarantine.
If we convert to percentageof total patients, you can see unvaxxxed is the best, vaxxed is worse, and the boosted is the worst. But their differences are not huge. That's why they say, as you quoted, "did not find large differences".

But, no large difference doesn't mean no difference, as the number and graph showed. The difference is, the result of unvaxxxed is the best. Note: to save to time, I didn't use figure 1E numbers of culture conversion, but they are similar to the results of pcr conversion. It's very straightforward. You can see it.

PS, Who are you? Could you tell us your regular alias here?


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Thanks Eli

Author: blowfish (1088 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:59 pm on Jul 27, 2022
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I like facts and data. Your data summary seems to contract the statement made by the authors. I don't have time to analyze the statistical significance of the data in the hazards model. I hope the authors did. if they did not, you should write in to NEJM.

I don't regularly post, and I don't use another handle.


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Study aside, I'm guessing someone on this board will be pretending to be a medical expert again.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58842 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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in response to this article. I say above all, don't listen to Google doc charlatans. Misinterpretation of data is common as are slanted links from unqualified people with a political horse in the race who draw foolish conclusions to help their cause.

Regarding the study, as for myself, I intend to get a hold of the actual NEJM article rather than relying on anyone else's summary such as Gateway Pundit OR LinkBoy.


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Or at minimum have one who is a very close family member,

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:59 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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and talks to Fauci on a daily basis

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Desperate pleas for relevance&respect and willingness to say anything for cause aren’t good science.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58842 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:22 am on Jul 27, 2022
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You got it, Doc!

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Im tired of these vaccinated people spreading the virus.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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Really? I was under impression only rubes and

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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various snake handlers spread the virus. Wow!

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Vaxxed are super-spreaders, even asymptomatic variant factories.

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:03 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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For Omicron, the boosted are particularly super spreaders.

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Most likely because the unvaxxed are in hospitals and not roaming around ;-)...as to your points...

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:57 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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1) Even from Day 1 of vaccines being available...the protection rate was 95%...not 100%...and the ensuing variants have lowered that number significantly, while saving millions all over the world from severe illness or death.
2) "Breakthrough" infections have been discussed since 2021...but they still have a much better chance of staying out of the hospital or morgue than their Unvaxxed brethren...like Fauci and tons of others who got infected after being Vaxxed and Boosted.
3) Both vaccination and previous infection provide comparable levels of re-infection immunity...those with prior infection AND vaccination have much better immunity...
4) I've already provided voluminous data supporting vaccine safety and effectiveness, especially as regards their primary purpose...keeping people out of hospitals, ICUs and morgues...can't help you if you refuse to read any of it.

Hopefully, you'll come up with some really challenging points some day...as for the "Ship of Fools" comment...I'd agree that you are "Adrift" ;-).


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You don’t understand how Science works, you rube!!

Author: TampaIrish (11366 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:20 pm on Jul 26, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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He really does not.

Author: blowfish (1088 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:11 am on Jul 27, 2022
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He should at least read the paper and understand statistical significance. I don't think it is necessary to call him a rube.

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