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Spot Fookin On!

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:51 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/31/justice-department-prosecute-trump-what-a-banana-republic-looks-like/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Re: Spot Fookin On!

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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"Refuses to acknowledge he lost an election.
Uses captive media outlets to undermine the sanctity of elections and lie about election “fraud.”
Ignores mounds of evidence showing the election was legitimate.
Attempts to use the Justice Department to throw doubt on the legitimacy of an election.
Pressures state officials to “find” just enough votes to change the result of a key state.
Pressures state officials to retract voting certificates and create fraudulent documents to override the will of the people.
Cooks up a scheme to retain power that his own counsel understands would be illegal.
Pressures his vice president to disregard his oath and help facilitate the coup plot.
Calls angry people to show up at the nation’s capital just when the legislature is counting electoral votes and promises the gathering will be “wild!”
Invites an armed, unhinged mob to march on Congress and promises to join them in confronting the elected leaders carrying out their constitutional duties.
Incites the crowd to hold his vice president responsible for not having the “courage” to overturn an election, even as the violent mob moves in on him.
Refuses to use law enforcement or national security personnel to put down his supporters’ violent insurrection."


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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You are a great American, jb! The best of us,

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:46 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Keep Rockin In The Free World!

America always finds its way.

You inspire me to me to better.

Manhattan rocks!


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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A Manhattan for you!

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/93/a0/e4/93a0e43553471ce48d698564b02c540b.jpg

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The one where you spit in it and say..."and there's Central Park"?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33384 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 am on Aug 1, 2022
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Waste good alcohol, me? Never!

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:14 am on Aug 1, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Please back away from the crack pipe.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Your smile says it all.

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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http://media.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2005/aug/methmouth/methmouth200-f92ea8c3c63d500dd33257b26ce69c01ab76367d-s6-c30.jpg

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Hunter?

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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ND678

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:24 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Jim??

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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What else would your reaction be when they tell you what to think?

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Same as age 12.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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I am not a compromised American or person.

I was blessed with great judgment and a true moral compass.

You weren’t.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Spot Fookin On!

Author: jimbasil (52292 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Re: Spot Fookin On!

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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http://no can he right when to often he is wrong

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no way he can right when he always wrong

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:42 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Loved hearing AG Merrick Garland's unequivocal words...

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:34 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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“We intend to hold everyone, anyone who was criminally responsible for the events surrounding Jan. 6, for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another, accountable. That’s what we do. We don’t pay any attention to other issues with respect to that.”

Holt followed up, asking whether, if Trump were to become a candidate for president again, “that would not change your schedule or how you move forward or don’t move forward?”

Garland responded: “I’ll say again that we will hold accountable anyone who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, legitimate, lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next.”
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With FOXNews now turning on him, DJT is toast in the GOP...just a matter of when indictments and trials start...that fool never had a clue what he was getting into...and how he would be used...probably still thinks Putin would buy a penthouse in Moscow from him....unbelievable.


Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/merrick-garland-not-rule-prosecuting-trump-jan-6-rcna40092

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I will keep repeating: do not underestimate Garland’s tenacity.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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To understand Garland, take a look at his family history.

Take a look at his record as a federal prosecutor. Take a look at his record as an Oklahoma City prosecutor.

Think about Israel’s resolve in squaring what happened in Munich in 1972.

Meet Merrick Garland.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Lock comrade Trumpsky and his fellow traitors up.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 11:07 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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There has to be consequences for attacking Democracy, lying and cheating.
Real Americans will respect the Democrats if they prosecute the scum who attacked our country.


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Trump is toxic. If Merry takes him down, he enables the Republicans. Pyrrhic victory.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 7:31 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Oh yeah, I don't underestimate Merry. He breaks the law by not defending the houses of SC justices who are conservatives, as well as, siccing the politicized FBI on those dangerous " domestic terrorists " who make too much noise against woke school boards.

He oversees a two-tiered system of justice in America.


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He also knows to tread lightly. Merrick will be in the crosshairs himself after the midterms.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 8:12 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Make a big deal about conducting an investigation, go one mSNBC and the rest of them, we're cooperating and listening to the Jan 6 committee, WE WILL EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE!!!!

Then on a Friday night, just as football is starting, kids going back to school and the wives start accessorizing their slutty nurse, schoolgirl and/or flight attendant costumes for Halloween.....oh by the way, we're not going to indict! Happy Holidays everybody!!!

Fiiiiiizzzzzlllllllleeeeee.....thud!


"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Perhaps. But as you yourself have noted, he likely will not indict Trump.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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But if he does, you will know how compelling his decision was informed.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:24 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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I suppose that might be true. Still, probably not going to happen.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 7:29 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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I understand your point that President's are not above the law. But garland understands the implications of this....

"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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As Merry Garland tackles DJT, The Ronald slides into the end zone untouched.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Washington Compost. Same rag that said Putin hacked the grid and denied Vermonters electricity.

Author: Cole (16134 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 6:25 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Paywall!

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Think like a Marine. We breach walls with the command of a 1 foot putt.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:32 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Nervous pundits warn that for the good of the country, the Justice Department ought not to indict Donald Trump, since prosecuting a former president is the sort of thing “banana republics” do. That’s wrong on two grounds.


First, it is not up to Attorney General Merrick Garland to decide what’s in the country’s long-term democratic interests. The decision whether to “spare the country” the turmoil surrounding a past president’s criminal trial rests with the chief executive, as was the case under President Gerald Ford.


The closest the Justice Department’s prosecutorial guidelines come to that concept is the requirement that a prosecution serve a “substantial federal interest.” But that factor, as properly understood, weighs in favor of prosecution. As the guidelines note:
In determining whether a substantial federal interest exists that requires prosecution, the attorney for the government should consider the nature and seriousness of the offense involved. A number of factors may be relevant to this consideration. One factor that is obviously of primary importance is the actual or potential impact of the offense on the community and on the victim(s). The nature and seriousness of the offense may also include a consideration of national security interests.



Well, there could hardly be a more substantial interest than punishing the leader of an attempt to overthrow a democratic election in order to deter future coups.


Fortunately, Garland made clear in a recent interview with NBC News’s Lester Holt that his department intends to “hold everyone, anyone who was criminally responsible for the events surrounding January 6, for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another, accountable.” The attorney general seemed to reject the idea of excluding a prosecution simply because Trump was president.


Second, prosecuting a former political leader is not what will turn the United States into a “banana republic.” Indeed, I have some unfortunate news for the nervous Nellies: Our country is already on its way to becoming a failed democracy. The question is now what we intend to do about it.


How do you know democracy is unraveling? It is when an incumbent does these sorts of things:


• Refuses to acknowledge he lost an election.


• Uses captive media outlets to undermine the sanctity of elections and lie about election “fraud.”


• Ignores mounds of evidence showing the election was legitimate.


• Attempts to use the Justice Department to throw doubt on the legitimacy of an election.


• Pressures state officials to “find” just enough votes to change the result of a key state.


• Pressures state officials to retract voting certificates and create fraudulent documents to override the will of the people.

* Cooks up a scheme to retain power that his own counsel understands would be illegal.


• Pressures his vice president to disregard his oath and help facilitate the coup plot

*. Calls angry people to show up at the nation’s capital just when the legislature is counting electoral votes and promises the gathering will be “wild!”


• Invites an armed, unhinged mob to march on Congress and promises to join them in confronting the elected leaders carrying out their constitutional duties.


• Incites the crowd to hold his vice president responsible for not having the “courage” to overturn an election, even as the violent mob moves in on him.


* Refuses to use law enforcement or national security personnel to put down his supporters’ violent insurrection.



By now, Americans should realize that this was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships, not mature constitutional democracies. They should understand that the Republican Party, filled with small individuals hiding behind phony claims of privilege to avoid testifying, has become the bullying apparatus that dictators have historically used to amplify their lies and cloak their actions in legitimacy.


If Americans don’t want our presidents to resemble the thugs of South America or Eastern Europe and don’t want violence to become a standard political weapon, they should demand that Garland keep his word.


This is not the call to “lock him up.” This is the call of a citizenry demanding that the Justice Department follow the legal process to hold responsible anyone involved in arguably the worst crime against democracy in our history. Only a “banana republic” would give the guy behind the coup attempt a get-out-of-jail-free card.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You’re no Marine.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 9:04 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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I can see the title, and I see why Conor is excited. He wants a banana republic here.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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And our national political prosecutor is leading the way.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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We write the histories of our own lives, Ned.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:56 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Vow to be your best self. Vow to be your best American.

Renounce Trump. Renounce Trumpism.

Vote Democrat. It is the only path for our nation.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Please stop trying to destroy our justice system, education system, economic system.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:05 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Don't forget the military.

Author: MAS (21321 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Link: https://www.dailywire.com/news/air-force-includes-drag-show-in-woke-diversity-festival-at-langley

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Clinton loathed the military and things have been going in this direction ever since.

Author: JarHead4ND (4247 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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democrats usually do. They pay lip service. Some actually serve.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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I respect that. But deep down they despise the armed forces.

"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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For Dems, main purpose of military is to force changes on them that they can't force on society.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:24 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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