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Can someone explain the Griner situation to me?

Author: NDavenue (6798 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:54 am on Aug 4, 2022
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I honestly haven't paid attention. But I gather she was busted for some drug offense in Russia? It sucks but, it is what it is. Is there a compelling reason why people want the US government to make a deal getting her released? I understand if someone was falsely imprisoned or put in jail for unjust laws but, what's the deal here?

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.

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Hostage.

Author: conorlarkin (16126 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:01 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Black Lives Matter .... no more, but certainly no less
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CNN is blaming the pay gap between NBA and WNBA. To hell with her being an

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:21 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Adult and taking responsibilities for her actions. The only one at fault here is her.

Link: https://www.outkick.com/brittney-griner-cnn-pay-gap-nba-wnba/

Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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They're going to put in her a women's prison, it'll be like heaven for her

Author: holybull101 (9133 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Just sentenced to 9 years. No fan of hers but holy shit thats a long time for what she had.

Author: MuskyTommy (1229 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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A victim of Russia-US politics. State Dept's classifying her as wrongfully detained seals her fate.

Author: Eli (7138 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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So, basically our reaction is she is an innocent hostage. This tough, no-apology stance got her the maximum sentence.

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Go Russia, huh comrade? Oh, I think it’s time for your daily Putin toss off.

Author: Domer From Hell (12451 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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We're all born bald baby!
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I wish we had examples here at home of people facing trumped-up charges based upon political axes to

Author: MAS (17790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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grind.

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Yeah, maybe you can provide one or two?

Author: jimbasil (46841 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:16 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Awesome.

Author: notredame678 (2783 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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I see what you did there.

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:05 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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High profile and humanity. But no country's government will do it for little potato

Author: Eli (7138 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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I remember Australian small potato citizens used to get harsh punishment in Malaysia or Indonesia for drugs. The only thing Australian government can do is asking for mercy.

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Yet another example of puritanical cannabis laws

Author: Nigel Tufnel (6428 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:51 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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One day, cannabis will be viewed in the same way as alcohol. Completely insane that it is considered in the same class as heroine and LSD.

Hey Joe - how are you coming on this pledge? You could reschedule cannabis TODAY. No congressional support needed.

Just have your handlers do it. Realize that you probably had no idea of this cannabis proclamation, but if you have a moment of lucidity, how's about you actually fucking do something?

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You can't really dust for vomit.
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It wasnt cannabis, it was hashish.

Author: BaronVonZemo (42667 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Yeah, great point

Author: Nigel Tufnel (6428 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:01 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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You can't really dust for vomit.
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Granted, its not heroin, and its a terruble overreaction, but….

Author: BaronVonZemo (42667 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:50 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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….she was really dumb to do what she did knowing the rules and the country involved.

Her hatred of the country she now expects to bail her out doesn’t help.


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"Cannabis" sounds more sciency, like "fetus."

Author: MAS (17790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Pig meet lipstick

Author: BaronVonZemo (42667 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:45 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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It wasnt cannabis, it was hashish.

Author: BaronVonZemo (42667 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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You really need to write a strongly worded letter to Putin...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (28510 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:51 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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I don't see what the big deal is, as that's the same punishment that Kamala liked to mete out.

Author: Cole (13133 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:50 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Why do you consider LSD in the same class as Heroin?

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Seems like you need some education yourself.

May I recommend watching the "How to change your mind" series on Netflix.


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Don't mess with me on this topic

Author: Nigel Tufnel (6428 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:36 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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LSD, Heroine and Cannabis are all DEA Schedule 1 Drugs.

Perhaps it is you that needs some education.


Link: Learn

You can't really dust for vomit.
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I know, but LSD is arguably safer than THC and both have legitimate medical uses.

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:41 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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LSD, DMT, psilocybin, MDMA, mescaline, THC and CBD should all be legal in some capacity. Whether it should be by prescription is debatable.

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Blah, blah, blah

Author: Nigel Tufnel (6428 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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How's about - I'm sorry, you were right and I was wrong.

It's not hard. We all must eat crow from time to time. I certainly have.


You can't really dust for vomit.
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No, you misunderstood my query.

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:45 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Did you run out of weed?

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'Why do you consider LSD in the same class as Heroin?'

Author: Nigel Tufnel (6428 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:51 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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That was the query.

What did I misunderstand?

They are in the same class, and I provided you with proof.

Just stop. You have no intelligent response, so you make a lame, snarky comment about my cannabis use.

I now must assume you are slow. Reposted for you, from the DEA website, below. THIS is why I consider LSD in the same class as heroin.

Schedule I

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote.


You can't really dust for vomit.
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because they both make you stupid, stupid

Author: Hank the Tank (9187 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:17 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Which is why all the tech geniuses in silicon valley microdose LSD.

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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To make themselves stupid.

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People with 120/130 IQs can afford to lose 10 points.

Author: MAS (17790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:20 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Unfortunately, most people who use drugs are not up in rarified air, at least not until they take a hit, in this department. A person with a 90 IQ who loses the average of eight IQ points is in real trouble in terms of having a job that pays the bills.

Link: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/abs/lsd-acutely-impairs-working-memory-executive-functions-and-cognitive-flexibility-but-not-riskbased-decisionmaking/99539D459AD226317A37F3E9960D3AC3

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That's not a microdose.

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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It's an open question how effective it is, but it is increasingly popular in tech.

Link: https://theconversation.com/microdosers-of-lsd-and-magic-mushrooms-are-wiser-and-more-creative-101302

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"Completely insane that it is considered in the same class as heroine and LSD."

Author: iairishcheeks (15876 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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I think you and Nigel are in danger of a Curly/Dim level event.

Author: Iggle (8700 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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The Puritans were sticklers about THC.

Author: MAS (17790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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It all started when Bradford's kid was caught rollin' doobies behind the tanner's store.

All these heartaches and years in dungeons over a...wait for it...plant!


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Her mistake was being arrested during a limp Biden Admin. Trump had the UCLA players out in 5 mins.

Author: Cole (13133 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:25 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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a black lesbian who has criticized America. If she had a limp, she'd be a liberal's wet dream.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (12928 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:22 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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And here we are. The culture warriors hate her. Culture wars > patriotism, always always.

Author: Chris94 (30657 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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So she isn't responsible for her actions? Yes, she is being targeted because she is an American but

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:47 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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this is her fault. Plus, she has shown she doesn't really like living here so why should anyone in this country feel sorry for her?

Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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They trumped-up charges for political reasons

Author: Chris94 (30657 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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She had some hash residue in a pipe or something and they essentially charged her with being a drug smuggler with the intent to distribute.

It is because she is a (relatively) high-profile American, plain and simple.


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She said she brought in hashish oil…..

Author: BaronVonZemo (42667 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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…do you think she said that in hopes that cooperating with what they wanted to hear might get her off easier when it wasn’t really true?

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Definitely harsh. I assumed she had actual drugs on her.

Author: NDavenue (6798 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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For personal use.

In retrospect, she would have been smart to ditch the pipe.


I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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not fully plain and simple. Yes, the charges seem severe, but ignorance of the law is no excuse. S

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (12928 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:20 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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he thought she was above the law and got caught. She was an American in a hostile foreign land. She has to know better.

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Bullshit. She was not smuggling drugs. And everyone knows that.

Author: Chris94 (30657 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:22 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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I didn't say she was smuggling, but if there is a zero tolerance policy in a country, a hostile coun

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (12928 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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try at that, then you don't carry any sort of drugs.

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True, it was stupid. But she is being targeted because she is an American.

Author: Chris94 (30657 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:33 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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That should piss you off too.

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of course, but I wouldn't have put myself in that position. That's why I don't go backpacking in Af

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (12928 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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ganistan, vacation in Rwanda or sail the black sea. I've very little international travel in my life, but I do know to stay away from countries that aren't big fans of Americans.

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She was playing ball in Russia, not backpacking

Author: Chris94 (30657 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:39 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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They invited her.

Obviously she should not have been screwing around with hash. But she is being treated - and sentenced - like a smuggler, which is she not, because she is an American.


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we should probably goto war over her.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (12928 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:04 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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It’s not her fault. She had some hash oil too. But of course, she shouldn’t be blamed for her

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:28 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Actions. The country she hates needs to rescue her and keep her out of prison.

Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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What happened to the Russian George Soros prosecutor that would have released her w/ no bond?

Author: ELP (4157 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 3:35 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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What happened to taking responsibilities for the poor choices that one makes? I get the fact that

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:28 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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she is being targeted because she is American but she put herself in this situation. She is in a foreign country, she needs to play by their rules. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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As I stated before, our govt wouldn't trade a pack of gum for any of us.

Author: ELP (4157 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 4:39 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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At least she will continue to have people work towards her release. I heard Sharpton is going to Russia next week. At least that's what he said. She has time now to take a knee in her cell and reflect on all the venom she has for the United States.

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Is Tawana Brawley going to accompany him? Just askin

Author: ColeyO (8104 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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I look forward to her story on Locked up Abroad. It will be riveting.

Author: TampaIrish (7769 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Need a laugh? Trigger a Liberal.
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