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Furious and enraged, China stomping its foot loudly. Tremble, tremble, tremble - Not.

Author: JarHead4ND (4247 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.

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I hope eastern wisdom enlightens Taiwan people and what happened in Ukraine teaches Taiwan people

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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U.S won't fight a direct war with any nuclear power.

But, if U.S. (under its neocon neolib) can fight Russia in a proxy war today until last Ukrainian. U.S. will fight China in a proxy war until last Taiwanese.

In the end, the sufferers are Ukrainians and Taiwanese. I hope Taiwanese understands U.S. provocation. It's not about Taiwan, it's about China.


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Taiwan shows the greatness of the Chinese people. CCP/PRC holds them back.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:24 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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It's independence supporters who put Taiwan in dangerous situation

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:58 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Independence supporters like Mao? You support reinstating KMT over all of China?

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:05 am on Aug 5, 2022
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At this point, Taiwan is just like America was in 1800. Except, they have far better reasons to want to remain separate.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I support Taiwan status quo, i.e. against Taiwan independence, against taking over Taiwan by force

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:21 am on Aug 5, 2022
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by china. This is the stand made by the strategists of our old generation in 1970s-1980s. I am with this stand. I have been talking about Taiwan many times here in the past 10+ years. But seems nobody here really understand China/taiwan, just like nobody here really understand Russia/Ukraine.

Independence supporters I referred to are Taiwan independence supporters. I am against them. They are crazy.


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Problem is that Twitter bios already have a Ukrainian flag. No room to commemorate dead Taiwanese.

Author: Cole (16134 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:20 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Agreed.Thankfully,Pelosi made trip against WH advice-imagine the precedent if China threat worked

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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But to be clear, this whole thing never would have occurred if Pelosi stayed out of foreign policy, and THAT never would have occurred if we had an actual POTUS who was in charge and leading.

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This ^^

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:21 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Indeed. Notably, Biden is pretending the visit did not happen, which is what China wants.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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China knows damn well if they fuck with us militarily…

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:36 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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We’d own the sea and sky within hours. They have a large active duty force, but they’re not combat tested.

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Oh...not so sure about this.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 8:17 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Do explain. And please read my response to ELP

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:28 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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They have been preparing for this for years. We have preparing for drag queen shows.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:04 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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This according to TV retired Generals.

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Transvestite generals? What is the world coming to?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33384 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:27 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Not a general but how about an Admiral.

Author: TampaIrish (11365 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/02/22/USAT/63b7bde2-c470-41b2-b5ce-0fecdec14c5b-20220216_USAT_WOTY_JH_LEVINE_10.JPG

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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We have a combat seasoned professional military…

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:27 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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12 aircraft carriers, proven technology, an Army that can be anywhere in the world within 18 hours…

China has a conscript military, 1 aircraft carrier (that’s a piece of shit). While their military is large, how will they deploy their troops if we own the air and the sea?


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Beyond ignorant. China has 3 aircraft carriers, not 1. U.S. has 11 in service, not 12. But only

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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3 deployed in Pacific. USS Roosevelt, USS Reagan and USS Nimitz. All are pretty old. USS Nimiz is over half century old. All 3 Chinese aircraft carriers are pretty new.

China military is volunteer military. WTF you got this conscript information? It's not even wrong, it's beyond ignorant.


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You’re beyond dumb…

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:53 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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“Technically, those 18–22 years of age enter selective compulsory military service, with a 24-month service obligation. In reality, numbers of registering personnel are enough to support all military posts in China, creating so-called "volunteer conscription".”

Yeah, that sounds like an “all volunteer” military to me. And China has one operational old Soviet aircraft carrier. Like others said, the other one is a helo carrier. Just shut the fuck up. You’re a treasonous piece of shit who iI’d gladly smack.


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They have two. One is for helicopters.

Author: Chris94 (36443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:21 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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One of their two operational carriers is a former Soviet piece of crap that was purchased by a gambling outfit in Macao before Beijing took it. It’s not for fixed-wing aircraft.

We have a whole new class of supercarriers - the Ford class - coming off the line.

You’re an ignorant putz.


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You're the only one in the world saying one of China's aircrafts is only for helicopters.

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:53 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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A fake expert is indeed fake.

3 Chinese carriers:
Liaoning: 24 jets
Shandong: 36 or 26 jets
Fujian: 40 jets


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Still no match for our Navy….

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:58 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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And China is still using old Soviet “arched deck” technology. Those carriers would be rendered ineffective within hours. Do you honestly think they match up with us? Are you sucking Xi’s dick too?

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I'd have to bet we have subs in the area, they would take out their carriers pretty quickly.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 9:06 am on Aug 5, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Agree

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:04 am on Aug 5, 2022
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If we are counting mini-carriers for VTOL craft, our count goes up.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:26 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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We have 12 of those

Author: Chris94 (36443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:33 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Yeah, but they might be thinking about striking while we don't have a commander in chief.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:50 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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For some reason, they might perceive that as weakness.

Seems crazy, I know.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I think China is all talk…

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Why would they start a war they can’t win? Why would they destroy their economy?

Same goes for Russia. Putin knows he can’t beat us militarily. Both he and Xi are big talking pussies


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Solid points all around.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Aug 4, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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This is not a video game. Chest pounding won't do it this time.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:07 am on Aug 5, 2022
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Br careful what you wish for. I realize that the "experts" on TV aren't as accomplished as the "experts" on this board, but, from what I have read and heard, the U.S. is not prepared. We are stretched thin. Numbers are down. This administration is not the ones to be saber rattling.

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Not sure where you’re hearing that we’re not prepared…

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 am on Aug 5, 2022
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While we are coming off the GWOT, we’re still capable of deploying anywhere in the world within 18 hours. We have the strongest and most lethal military in the history of the world and I’m not even talking about nukes. We were successful in Iraq and Afghanistan on the battlefield, but our military was built to destroy either Russia or China if need be. Never underestimate our global military capabilities.

Link: https://www.cnbctv18.com/photos/news/most-powerful-militaries-in-2022-us-dominates-the-world-china-is-3rd-find-out-where-india-ranks-12159362.htm/amp

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I'm hearing it and reading it from the usual TV retired Generals and Lt Colonels.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 11:55 am on Aug 5, 2022
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I have no expertise in these matters and neither does anyone else on this board. I do know that we left Afghanistan in disgrace , not to mention all the equipment we left our enemy. Whose decision was that? Twenty-six Navy Seals have been dismissed for not getting that all holy jab. Recruitment numbers are way down. We are sending so much to Ukraine that we are leaving our own selves short. And, who around here is even keeping track of the money and equipment sent to Ukraine? We have Generals more interested in eliminating some kind of white nationalism from our troops and these same Generals, at the top mind you, encourage CRT at our academies. A course on BLM apparently is taught at the AF academy. The AF higher ups are apparently also way into drag queen shows at their base. Does this sound like a military that is ready for China/Russia/NK? And the simulated war games between USA and China? How do you think those turn out? Not sure this WH and its military leaders know how to win a war. China has been building their military. We have been working on pronouns. It's easy for someone with no skin in the game to rah rah our military into a conflict in Ukraine and a full out war with China/Russia. Do you trust the war machine, "making war just for fun"? I hope I am wrong if the worst happens.

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Try turning the channel to other new sources than Fox bro...

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Aug 5, 2022
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Trust me, I like Fox, but some of them have gone off the deep end over there. I treat Fox like I do MSNBC and CNN. There are far better news sources and the ones I follow say nothing about the USA being unprepared to fight China or Russia if need be. Now, don't get me wrong...I don't want a war with either of them, but if it did happen, we'd come out on top rather easily. Neither would use nukes as that would most assuredly be mutual destruction. In a "conventional" war, we would dominate them. There's no doubt about that. We spend in excess of 600 billion on defense. That's more than the next 7 countries on the top militaries list.

All the other shit...CRT, Trannies...I don't give a fuck about that. In fact if they can fly, shoot, or fight...I'm OK with it.

Experts on this site? There are a few on here that I trust when it comes to defense/military and foreign policy.


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Did I say Fox bro? Did I mention any channels bro? Relax bro. You may get your war.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Aug 5, 2022
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Oh stop it, Eli...errrrrr....ELP. I don't want war...

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Aug 5, 2022
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been there done that. Been shot and guess what? It hurts. I've seen shit that would make you piss your pants, literally, so stop with the "war monger" insinuation. I'm talking about our military strength and I'm right. Get your information from reliable sources and stop visiting InfoWars and all of the right wing extremist sites, dummy.

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Tantrum and name calling. Very impressive.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:19 pm on Aug 5, 2022
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Watch the snark, son. You should know this by now

Author: Domer From Hell (15838 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:43 pm on Aug 5, 2022
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