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Chris and other libs, Energy Independence is not an illusion,you just don’t understand what it means

BaronVonZemo 64220 posts Joined: Nov 19, 2010

Posted10:55 am on Aug 6, 2022

Chris, you didn’t respond below to this post below as you did to others, and I understand why….you hadn’t realized what we were referring to until now. But I realized that this is an educational opportunity, and a chance to clarify our meaning regarding this term.

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=91426

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Increased US production will not affect global supply or price

Chris94 39169 posts 12:00 pm on Aug 6, 2022

Not in any meaningful way.
The United States will always be vulnerable to global price vacillations. We will always import oil to those areas of the country where it is makes more economic sense to import it.
I promise you that I understand this.
“Energy independence” is a red cape waved in front of the unintelligencia.

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  The only way you could think this is if you think US is near max capacity already at this time
  
  BaronVonZemo OP64220 posts 1:12 pm on Aug 6, 2022
  
  This assumption is false.
  If you aren’t assuming this, then you are refuting the law of supply and demand.
  
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    No, you can think this if you realize that we are damn near max capacity
    
    Chris94 39169 posts 7:17 pm on Aug 6, 2022
    
    And if you understand that not all oil is economically equal. Some is much easier to access and has a lower sulfur content.
    Like Saudi oil.
    The biggest US issue these days is in refining, not production. And it has nothing to do with Biden policies.
    
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      Exactly what I said you must think….and that is massively false.
      
      BaronVonZemo OP64220 posts 9:22 am on Aug 7, 2022
      
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I'm sensing a manic phase today. Gas prices are falling, rejoice already!

Quest4twelve 8002 posts 11:26 am on Aug 6, 2022

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  It's almost humorous, R's cried murder when the petrol prices sky-rocketed and now they're
  
  jimbasil 55051 posts 11:34 am on Aug 6, 2022
  
  complaining the prices are plummeting daily - Joe didn't do the right thing.
  Embarrassingly amazing!
  
  Jack, he is a banker
  and Jane, she is a clerk
  
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    You said yourself, Skyrocketing. Plummeting would equate to if prices were lower than when they
    
    Frankx 6621 posts 12:01 pm on Aug 6, 2022
    
    Skyrocketed.
    Before they Skyrocketed it cost me $100
    To fill up, after Skyrocketing $136, yesterday $128.
    If the prices had plummeted as you say, It should cost me about $92.
    Spin away Jim as you always do, I'm off to play 18 hoping to win some cash to pay for the Skyrocketing groceries that are OUT OF CONTROL.
    
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      Your point being they went up and now due to Biden's continued work to bring the prices down is a
      
      jimbasil 55051 posts 12:06 pm on Aug 6, 2022
      
      bad thing? I don't get it. You're spinning that the high price of fuel caused by number 45's time in office
      is now coming down because of 46's diligence is a bad thing?
      So now you're upset. I get that. It doesn't look good on you guys calling Biden's successes a good thing.
      You'd rather the people of America suffer.
      
      Jack, he is a banker
      and Jane, she is a clerk
      
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        As usual, more SPIN. Peace
        
        Frankx 6621 posts 12:19 pm on Aug 6, 2022
        
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        Re: As usual, more deflection and head in the sand.
        
        jimbasil 55051 posts 12:23 pm on Aug 6, 2022
        
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        Jack, he is a banker
        and Jane, she is a clerk
        
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Like I said, your Trump internet diploma says it all.

jimbasil 55051 posts 10:59 am on Aug 6, 2022

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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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