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The Trump raid is political genius!

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:25 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Instead of inflation, open borders, rising crime rates, homelessness, woke education extremism or transsexuality… the coming elections will be about Trumpism!

It is the single best issue the Dems can run on.

All the other issues will recede into the background.

It will be a referendum on Trump because every Republican will have to defend him and every Dem will attack him.

The Ads are already being written.


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Democrats have been racking up wins w/o "The Raid"...read the linked article for a return to reality

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:16 am on Aug 9, 2022
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...the "CHIPS Bill"...the "PACT Bill" (which the GOP fought against!)...the "Climate Bill" (due to pass the House)...plus the Kansas voters rejection of a total ban on abortion which is sure to reverberate through all mid-term elections.

This invasive seizure of our government's property from Trump's Mar-a-Lago is apparently a national security issue that is an extremely high priority, or the FBI wouldn't have scores of agents making a very public scene like this...let that sink in, Curly, and drop your own attempt at a "Kabuki" script.


Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/joe-biden-legislative-wins-00050461

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This is funny because it is true.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:50 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Link: https://twitter.com/jamesje23129687/status/1556982072941711360?t=b8U2_VCe8VXEEPXww5AfMg&s=19

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It also spurs him to run (instead of DeSantis). They have an easy psych profile

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:52 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Which is too bad. Desantis would be great for the country.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:11 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Agreed. He also will win with certainty.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:13 am on Aug 9, 2022
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They're going to get him this time. It's another bombshell. Are the walls closing

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 am on Aug 9, 2022
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in again?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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It makes a splash, no question. But this too will fade into nothingness.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:08 am on Aug 9, 2022
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November is a lifetime away. Remember how excited Tyrone was when trump and his accounting firm split? Stay tuned! Walls closing in! Then....poof!

At the end of August, gas is still high, grocery prices are through the roof, shelves are empty, wokeness rules, climate hysteria, teachers still trying to groom kindergartens, etc.

Trump had some documents. The classifications of which is to be determined. The National Archives wants them back. Stage and FBI raid to make it look like a really big deal.


"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Ahem, haven't you been paying attention to Karine?

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:59 am on Aug 9, 2022
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We have had a historic drop in gas prices recently (after doubly historic increases).

Of course, the president was not at all at fault for the increase but the decrease he definitely deserves credit for.

The gaslighting by this administration is something to behold. It's something new everyday, like the "Inflation Reduction" or is it "Deficit Reduction" tax and spend bill.


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Sixteen months ago they raided Rudy's apartment.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:36 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Crickets.

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The raid was 100%political. But your theory assumes voters can’t focus on more than one thing at a

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:02 am on Aug 9, 2022
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time….a bery Dem view of boters. But they are wrong.

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I hope you are right... but these voters elected Biden (I assume).

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:36 am on Aug 9, 2022
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The fact that Biden won without campaigning means nothing should be taken for granted.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:39 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The White House was not informed, much less consulted

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:10 am on Aug 9, 2022
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But you know better.

You’ve got a 1.000 batting average at understanding how our government works.


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Agree. Had they been...The Hospital Ship would certainly be in Palm Beach...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Aug 9, 2022
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Shirley, u can't be serious, and yes I'm calling u Shirely

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:19 am on Aug 9, 2022
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You actually said that out loud....bwahahahahaha

Author: Frankx (5313 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 9:08 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Haha! Lol time.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:57 am on Aug 9, 2022
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It was preplanned d/t sentence in code of not being able to hold office.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:47 am on Aug 9, 2022
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But the Constituion outlines the requisites and the 1978 law walks over that. Still, it triggers a legal battle leading up to the inevitable Trump win that takes focus off Bidens mess,

Further, Biden is not in charge.

Stop pretending - at leat here.


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Why would anyone consult Biden about anything?

Author: Curly1918 (16449 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:37 am on Aug 9, 2022
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I am confident that Biden was 100% uninformed…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:40 am on Aug 9, 2022
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…even if he was told about this a dozen times.

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For a political act like this? Shows Biden not really in charge.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:37 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Look at Pelosi. Furthers that assertion.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:57 am on Aug 9, 2022
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US servicemen routinely take home highly classified documents as souvenirs.

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 am on Aug 9, 2022
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At least in Baron's version of America.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Hillary's email didn't count I suppose? Sounds like they took 15 boxes last year and had word there

Author: IrishMac (1684 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:20 am on Aug 9, 2022
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was possibly more documents. Not sure why they had to raid as opposed to just working with Trump to get them? Why make a spectacle unless it was for political gain?

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Hillary voluntarily provided her server to the investigators. She fully cooperated.

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Aug 9, 2022
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They found 100+ emails on her personal server that were classified, 20+ of which were classified as Top Secret. The Inspector General's Report is public, as is the DOJ report declining prosecution.

The emails, albeit classified, are not in the same stratosphere of the much more sensitive boxes of documents that Trump took with him.

Prior to leaving office, Trump was told that he could not take them home to Florida. He did anyway ..... because rules and laws are nothing that he has every paid attention to.

Trump has continued to retain these highly classified documents. He has NOT cooperated.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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With the additional information coming out you are once again wrong.

Author: IrishMac (1684 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:51 pm on Aug 9, 2022
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We now know he was cooperating with the initial 15 boxes of documents and they now felt he wasn't being cooperative. I guess we just need to conclude that the next logical step would be to do a massive raid for the entire world to see. Doesn't look political at all. You guys just continue to strum up for support for the Donald.

And... to say that Clinton "top secret" emails are not in the same stratosphere just shows you can't look at anything without your political lens. You have no idea what the documents even are that have been seized.


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100 agent raid when he isnt even there. While no protection to SCOTUS despite law. Corrupt.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:59 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Corrupt and shameful.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:30 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Servicemen are just like politicians in your world? Why so insulting to servicemen?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:39 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Please point to the carve out exception for "politicians" in the text of the 4th Amendment:

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:44 am on Aug 9, 2022
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"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

We're here all day, Ned.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Exactly. And please point to the clause that says Democrats are exempt, but GOP is not.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:25 am on Aug 9, 2022
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I'm all for even and fair application of the laws. I invite you to join me.

But, that's not what you actually want. You actually want a nation of laws only when it comes to applying laws to your political opposition, but a nation of special treatment when it comes to applying laws to Democrats or even likely (in your mind) Democrat voters. Shame on you for supporting that, while pretending you don't. At least be honest about it.


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Whoever said Democrats are exempt?

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Do you think federal judges and magistrates keep a tally to ensure a 50/50 distribution?

You are bonkers, Ned.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Heh. The whole whataboutism thing is a claim for exemption, just for example...

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:57 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Your side is perverting the justice system into a political control system, from top (political home raids and prosecutions, weaponized IRS/FBI/DOJ) to bottom (defunding police, no bail, no borders...but looking to criminalize lawful gun owners). Just a few examples...others have better memories on this and can provide longer lists.

Shame on you.


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Deception. Judge signed off based on affidavit from FBI agent. Almost always grant.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:56 am on Aug 9, 2022
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I heard one commentator suggest judge signature shouldn't be required...

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:05 am on Aug 9, 2022
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...just have a prosecutor sign it, and then take a prosecutor's law license and put FBI agents in jail if they abuse their powers.

Probably not workable. But his point was that judges trust the authorities...and in political cases like this, they are loathe to punish abuses by their own political party (which further policies the justice system). And the FBI (and Conor) use the judge's signature as cover, knowing it is disingenuous, and they will get away with it.

Sadly, the Right needs to start abusing power like the Left does before the Left will agree to stop. Otherwise, they will just keep doing it, and claiming they want a nation of laws enforced fairly each time (while not wanting enforcement on their own).


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This one is priceless! You mean like fake electors and the such?

Author: Quest4twelve (6683 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:27 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Congratulations for making it this deep into a thread.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:17 pm on Aug 9, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Now this is a funny post, that's gold Jerry!

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 8:21 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Face it. After Russia-gate anything involving Trump/FBI/courts is inherently suspect. Blame Hills.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:12 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Since their platform is bereft of any intrinsic value the Dems have to run AGAINST something

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:02 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Indeed. It’s always about deception and lies for them.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:06 am on Aug 9, 2022
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It’s what they do.

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Truly what is their vision for America? Grievance, apology, tribalism, mediocrity. Losers.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:09 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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MAGA Republicans embrace lawlessness. Democrats embrace the rule of law.

Author: conorlarkin (21012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:23 am on Aug 9, 2022
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It has nothing to do with politics.

Lots of posters here need to find their horizon. Keep supporting Trumpism and we lose our nation.

Fact.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Could also be that there was just something specific in those documents they were afraid would leak

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Something about sources & methods. Something that would endanger US intel assets.

Trump was terrible with classified information as President, but that carries no penalty. As a private citizen, it does.


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Were you smiling as you typed that?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:03 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Just like Comey...oh wait.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 7:59 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Yep. I agree. It was MAGA who burned, murdered, and looted their way thru D city after city.

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:31 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Much of these neighborhoods will never recover because of these MAGA riots. We are on the same page when it comes to MAGA.

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Haha MAGA dystopian dreams?

Author: Quest4twelve (6683 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:45 am on Aug 9, 2022
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Pipe down sonny boy. You think the border is secure. You have zero standing w/ serious people.

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:51 am on Aug 9, 2022
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