The Espionage Act! Ha!
jimbasil
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Tell me jimmy, how does this charge work against the guy who determines what is classified & not?
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He hasn’t had that power - which is not absolute - since 1/20/21
It is not clear that the President can unilaterally declassify everything, especially nuclear weapons materials. Not sure how it would stand up in court, but there is a law saying he would need the OK from DOE.
But either way, if he had TS stuff in his possession after 1/20/21, then he was in violation.
It is a mystery about why he would, or what stuff he took. Obviously.
It will all be revealed in due time.
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That's a calm measured comment. Guessing this is all starting to sink in now.
Lock him up!!!! inevitably turns into ~~shrug~~ let's see how it plays out. Once this gets into a court room....? Game over.
"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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Level 2
As POTUS, he couldn’t just deem something declassified. Congress and other
Government entities would need to be involved in order to do so. You have a kindergarten view of a President and classified material.
Most agencies inside the government who deal in high level information held back on giving sensitive information to trump because they viewed him as a high security risk.
Ehem!
You are really lousy at this.
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So who is correct here, you or Chris94? Never mind, saw your response lower down. All good.
Edit: Added language
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Yes and No
The Prez can declassify almost anything, and Congress has no say in the matter.
There are certain subjects, like nuclear weapons, that are in a different category. “Restricted Data” cannot be declassified, by statute.
Explainer below.
Link: https://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/1558069945820483590?s=21&t=HfHF5lt4K1tgOS0qEyde8Q
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If anything were of the “Restricted Data” category, why would DOJ wait 1 1/2 yrs to get it
BaronVonZemo64411 posts…..and further when they knew it couldn’t possibly be secure in a private residence?
This is all so clearly planned and targeted. You like it because it ties Trump into court and takes attention from Biden’s & Dem failures. But it is once again, the big lie. There is no level of nefarious activity that you will not rationalize to get rid of Trump….because they told you what to think. Liberalism Rule #3. The ends justify the means.
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I love how you have all the answers
No one knows what is going on…except you. You smell the conspiracies and know exactly what is happening.
A little humility might be in order here.
No one outside that loop knows what is going on.
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Odd Chris. i thought I was asking an important question rather than giving and answer-one you must
BaronVonZemo64411 postsanswer. But one that you know will stretch out a good long while like the Russiagate did.
This is quite clearly a strategy that if successful, will be a permanent part of the political playbook from now on.
Trump is likely being truthful, but I get that you won’t believe it. So….let’s look at what we have
DOJ is taking an unprecedented action.
DOJ is doing it at a critical political moment.
DOJ has history of falsifying data in attempt to get same target in past.
DOJ is claiming information is taken is classified, but by guy who decides whether it is classified.
If info is of high level risk category, then DOJ waited a year and a half to act and put country at risk.
DOJ also waited until it was just before an election where it’s party deeply behind in the polls.I have lots of QUESTIONS Chris. But they are questions all pointing to the same logical answer.
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Good call. Now do your tribe. They've been equally confident in their statements.
(no message)"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022-
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He is just as nuts as they are. Pathetic after all of the debunked bullshit they believe anything.
(no message)Jersey Sucks!
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Ah, nice catch. I had just listened to Neal Katyal and a fmr head of
security under Bush administration. They had just said classified info cannot be declassified through whimsy. Just saying a secret is declassified doesn’t make it so.
I’m seeing there’s not a black and white explanation or a one size fits all.
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You are wrong about classification, and you describe treason as Trump claimed within govt orgs.
BaronVonZemo64411 posts(no message)
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Holy crap. Very Stalinque. How many Soviet generals & his colleagues were accused of that by Stalin?
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Normal people would be very concerned but not you because
you’d rather play the moron. Sad!
Moscow is the place for you. Maybe we can trade you for Griner.
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I know you miss her badly because she couldn't join your national anthem protest.
Thank you for following my post but I still despise you like most here do.
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I wear that as a badge of honor, daily.
(no message)Jack, he is a banker
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A federal judge found probable cause to investigate espionage.
Gotta admit, I did not see that one coming.
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The DOJ waited 1 1/2 yrs to recover dangerous "nuclear stuff", just before midterms,huh?
BaronVonZemo64411 posts(no message)-
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Like Tim Scott points out: Dems want the issue, not the solution.
(no message)Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Might not be as ominous as it sounds - here is language from the espionage act
Section 793 of the Espionage Act of 1917: "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States"
Might just be handling of records, not what would popularly be thought of as espionage.
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Better be right.
If you not, you likely just reelected him with this stunt.
"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022-
Level 4
In your bubble, people are pissed off about this
All those people were going to vote Trump anyway.
Outside your bubble, people are much more rational.
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Maybe you should take a break from here for some time and think before you post again.
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Maybe not. Your frustration does confirm the discomfort caused by points that you cannot answer.
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Either that, or just throw his degrees in the trash and never set foot on the campus again, for all
they are worth to him...what a waste of time...BVZ could have self-taught himself.
Not sure there's much more evidenced needed to classify Baron as "Unhinged".
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Said the professor. Bubble indeed! Pfft. I find this a lot of fun. Be right. For your sake.
(no message)"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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They better have the goods this time. Photos of Trump blowing an Area 51 alien on a spaceship...
....with Jimmy Hoffa and Lee Harvey Oswald doing blow off Marilyn Monroe's ass in the background. With all kinds of "nuclear stuff" strewn about the alien craft. Midgets dressed as circus freaks bringing plates of food and beverages to him ancient Rome style.
This better be GOOD! To say nothing of the credibility of our federal law enforcement agencies, the liberal posters here had better PRAY they got it right THIS time. Seven years of absolute BULLSHIT have come to nothing. John FUCKING Kennedy better deliver the fucking verdict dressed as Pope John Paul.
If he's guilty....fry his ass! If this is another HOSPITAL SHIP....there ain't enough Bounty Quicker Picker Uppers in the world to wipe the egg off their faces.
"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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