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Perfect. Never too late to unhitch your wagons.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 am on Aug 16, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/16/george-conway-mar-a-lago-search-trump/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Thread Level: 2

You know who George Conway is and his history of Trump hatred, right?

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:22 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Only a Pravda publication would give him a podium.

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As Sam Harris said on his podcast: better hope Trump took the nuclear codes.

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Cause he’s going to be a martyr otherwise.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

I will take the other side of “Trump will be a martyr” bet.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Lance — since Ned and Baron are too chickenshit to reply, I’ll ask you the same question: Are you OK if US servicemen or Government employees take home a swag bag of Top Secret documents and souvenirs?

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

The goal is, of course, to kill Trump politically (not justice). You jusrisk making him sympathetic.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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I agree with Bill Maher. trump was fading. But now you empower him. It may work. but it may also be a political miscalculation.

To your question, which I thought was a silly question that had no need of an answer: Your question assumes facts not in evidence, but I will answer. Of course soldiers shouldn't take secret information home.

Now a question for you: Should Hillary have been able to have top secret info in her home like Comey said she did? And if not, why was she treated with kid gloves, but trump was treated worse?

Politics, not justice, is at play here.

You can't condemn Trump on assumed facts without condemning Hillary on known facts...and yet you do, which shows you oppose justice. You can't defend the raid on Trump without also agreeing Hilary should have been raided...but you don't, which shows this is about political abuse of power by the Left...the left wants to get away with it 100% of the time.

And, after all, the Justice system is merely a tool for the Left to implement policy, not justice. Or, you are redefining "justice" to include "Democrat policy." That's what BLM is about, and bail reform, and defunding the police. the raid was just another act which is consistent with your political policy of fundamentally changing America away from a nation of laws.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Tell us why we don't want soldiers taking top secret documents home? What are the risks?

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:09 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Tell us why we don't want Dem Senators taking top secret documents home? You will have your answer.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:21 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Too chickenshit to answer my question conor?

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Aug 17, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I went to S&C files school at Naval Base Yokosuka, and was S&C officer for Marine Air Group-16.

Author: JarHead4ND (4247 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:11 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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So we will begin your risk assessment:
1. Most soldiers, i.e., enlisted, have no more than a HS diploma, thereby in the real world, they have limited understanding to care for classified documents;
2. Soldiers do not have a need to know the contents of classified documents;
3. Soldiers do not make tactical or strategical decisions requiring classified documents;
4. NCOs may at times have limited assess to classified documents when executing certain activities such as LRPS (Long Range Patrols), SOCs (Special Operations) behind enemy lines, i.e., Laos, North Vietnam, Cambodia, China. Usually these action were led by Marine 2ndLts thereby ensuring the continued necessity of TBS to fill the vacuum.

BTW, a S&C officer could not be relived by other orders without an accounting of every tome, document and pamphlet, A lost document resulted in a loss of numbers in the promotion list as well as a bad fitness report, the horror.


No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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Your words.."Of course soldiers shouldn't take secret information home."...let's watch as the legal

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:41 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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process unfolds...Donald Trump will absolutely have the opportunity to defend himself...no need to go off on political tangents...

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Problem is, you don't want equal application of the laws. You'll only prosecute Republican soldiers.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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When you are in control, the process only unfolds against the GOP...and against Trump, more often than not, the process itself is the punishment. You know you can't convict, but you know you can abuse the process by making him go through it. You guys really are sickening.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Read my earlier post regarding Rep. TJ Cox (D, CA), where I clearly stated "No one is above the law"

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:44 am on Aug 17, 2022
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that's a Dem Congressman being indicted during a Dem administration...based on the information provided, I myself, wholeheartedly agree with the charges...he, too, will get his day in court.

Stop making stuff up...it's a bad look for someone who purports to be of high moral character...

If I were you, I'd start working real hard on my excuses for being 'misled' by Donald Trump ;-).


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No - I’m not ok with that. But, let’s see what he took & i

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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If it was classified or he didn’t have the right to take it, punish him accordingly. He’s not above the law.

That said, it’s hard to imagine what he did take and that he walked out with anything too important, but we’ll see. The approach to search wasn’t well thought through and if he doesn’t have anything “important” it will look like they are trying to get him on a foot fault.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Let's assume that Trump has no sinister motive in taking the top secret documents with him.

Author: conorlarkin (20740 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Do you recognize that it wasn't done inadvertently?

Do you recognize the grave risks of storing said documents at a place like Mar-A-Lago?

Do you recognize that Trump was clearly placed on notice that the documents (every of of them) needed to be returned?

So, is he above the law or not? Will you agree that breaches of national security protocol regarding classified information is not a "no biggie" kind of thing?

Do you know what happens when a government employee inadvertently brings home classified information? The employee reports it, and then the department conducts a "damage assessment" to ascertain whether anyone may have accessed the classified information.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 6

I can’t answer any of those questions b/c I don’t know what he has or why he took it.

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:27 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I have a suspicion you're not alone in that judgement and IMO the DOJ will present a clear case

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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to the public that Trump did exactly what they assert...then, only anti-Americans will rally around him.

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I pray they prove it so this doesn’t breathe life into his campaign.

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:28 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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We need to move beyond personality politics.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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All Republicans are scum. There is no logic only hate in their actions.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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Re: Perfect. Never too late to unhitch your wagons.

Author: NDsub (29 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Aug 16, 2022
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But cult members know that only a narcissistic criminal can represent a true conservative.

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Part of Narcicisstic Personality Disorder is believing the rules don't apply to you

Author: Chris94 (36443 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 am on Aug 16, 2022
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And here we see another example. The rules are for other people. Other presidents.

Profoundly unfit for office and a continuing threat to the republic...but at least he owns the libs!


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No room in your wagon for pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, only two gender, Faith based voters.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 am on Aug 16, 2022
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