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Why are we incapable of compromise?

Author: Curly1918 (16156 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:50 am on Aug 18, 2022
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How about abortions until viabilitty... guns only for hunting and self protection... a gradual transition to greener energy... accomdation for trans persons without unfair athletic competitions... a tax system that does not favor thise with lobbyinsts... regulators who take economics into account... etc., etc.

Or does a two party system preclude mutual interests?


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Because it's Michigan vs Ohio State type tribalism.

Author: iairishcheeks (26728 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 am on Aug 18, 2022
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And the leaders (currently Trump and Biden) throw gasoline on the fire.

Disaffected people draw purpose from the cause that they lack in their own lives. Discussed at length in Eric Hoffer's True Believer. Political rhetoric becomes dogma, criticism of "Dear Leader" becomes blasphemy, if you're not with us, you're against us. Etc.


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I do not feel it's the "leaders." They are empty souled weather vanes.

Author: Curly1918 (16156 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:39 am on Aug 18, 2022
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It's us! We are internally conflicted and too impatient to listen to one another... like spouses in a bad marriage.

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I said the leaders throw gasoline on the fire.

Author: iairishcheeks (26728 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:05 pm on Aug 18, 2022
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Biden likened his opposition to George Wallace, Bull Connor and Jefferson Davis.

I don't think I need to provide any examples of Trump divisiveness.


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Yes, but it's cheaper gasoline than a month ago. Thanks, Biden!

Author: MAS (21322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:29 pm on Aug 18, 2022
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A counter thought. Could be the leaders. Could be the speed of information.

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:59 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Leaders vs the People:

I can see why individuals will think they are 100% right on each issue.

But, the reason we have a Republic is to allow highly principled, uncompromising voters (on their issues) to elect people who go to Congress and work together to hammer out compromises between those different sides. Think about how Congress kept the Nation together before the Civil War, with compromise after compromise (for better or worse).

But, Congress doesn't do that anymore. Congress does two things: 1) It waits until one party has a majority in both houses and POTUS, then it rams through uncompromising bullshit (daring SCOTUS to overrule it instead of considering whether it is Constitutional themselves, in violation of their oaths), or (2) when it can't do that, it unconstitutionally gives its authority to the Executive Branch, calling for executive orders and administrative agency action (daring SCOTUS to call them on it). There is negligible crossing of the aisles to form a compromise on the issues you mention. So, it kind of is our leaders.

Information Flow:

Part of this may be the speed of information. If a compromise is done, everyone knows about it by 4pm, talking points are issued by 5pm, and the media/internet has vilified it by 8pm. In the old days, it might take 6 months for that to happen...enough time for people to think, "Well, that was a compromise...Probably the best we could've hoped for."


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Author: Curly1918 (16156 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:42 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Because the GOP has been off the rails "tribal" since Newt.

Author: conorlarkin (20741 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/08/05/tracing-republican-partys-devolution-one-man-newt-gingrich/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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WhatabouttheGOP!

Author: NedoftheHill (44305 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:30 am on Aug 18, 2022
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So glad Chris gave us this mindless posting template.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You never accept responsibility for anything. Blame others.

Author: MAS (21322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:59 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Umm...

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:54 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Link: https://c.tenor.com/eh_16yHrIycAAAAM/stonecold-steve.gif

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You may have a point... we love to see over masculine men grapple in their briefs

Author: Curly1918 (16156 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:03 am on Aug 18, 2022
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Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Re: You may have a point... we love to see over masculine men grapple in their briefs

Author: Frankx (5089 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Aug 18, 2022
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5fkW5NZm9k

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