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Nothing in that speech divided this country more than it already was.

I know you guys will never accept it, but he’s 100% right - your cult leader is a fascist.

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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/02/biden-speech-philadelphia-trump-maga-republicans-democracy/

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to ask it anyway? How would you have felt if Trump used that exact setting with the Marines behind him last night? Would you have brushed it off as no big deal?

The setting was a bit over the top too.

But the message was right.

supporters aren’t a threat to the country. So which is it? Or did he really not mean what he said last night?

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Biden can use the Marines as his background during a political speech but Trump can't show off the military during a parade, heaven forbid.

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No big deal or he didn’t mean what he said. But everyone is a partisan, not them. They’re funny like that. Idiotic, but funny.

I'm not a Trump supporter. I hope he doesn't run. I voted against him in the primary last go around, and I will do so again.

But, if you could pause a moment, and look at things objectively, you would see that Biden is equally as divisive as Trump, and the impression is that he is calling for the Left to fight the Right in more than just an election. Side note: Interesting that he put Marines behind him, in uniform, for this speech. How often does he do that for a political speech unrelated to the military?

would do anything. He would seize on any pretext to make a move, while ignoring what happened in the Department of Interior while it got stormed by Leftists, or all the riots across the U.S.

Milley is ready to send in the troops against the People of the United States--that was the clear message sent by his approval to use Marines as the backdrop.

...the Republic is secondary to their hold on power.

Very weird.

Do I think they are going to use the military to crush the political opposition? Nothing would be more stupid for them to try. I can't imagine that they will. But, they definitely seem to be trying to send that message, so it is at least a bluff against their political opposition.

Might make sense to investigate those two Marines for wearing their uniforms at a political event, to give the impression that the Marines support one political party. The message should be clear in the military that the military should be apolitical.

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Are you going to raid my home?

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If you give a hoot about our democracy, renounce Trump's Big Lie, acknowledge how shameful January 6th was, renounce state legislatures who seek to make voting more difficult and vote counting more partisan.

In other words, show some integrity.

Thank goodness you’ve been working on uniting fellow Americans, like posting moronic photos.

You tiki torch carriers do wonders for civil conversation.

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Maybe if you stop reading far right extremists literature you could see the light.

I can help with that.

Like helping an adult realize his dream to swim.

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documents immediately upon leaving office to take with him? Documents he had no interest in reading while in office.

Go ahead - give that a whirl. I’ve asked you several times before and you reneged.

secrets in the past. Just because I continue to call you on this idiotic statement doesn't mean you get to spin away and deflect, as you usually do. You told Mac you unite people by telling the truth, I just brought up the stupid post and asked you to tell us the truth behind it. In your usual form, you spun it back to me.

Let me ask you again, how is posting that Trump was selling (and sold) secrets telling the truth and uniting people? Until you either show a link to back up that claim you don't get to ask questions back to anyone on this topic.

I say he “sold” secrets. I said he wants to monetize them - could be extortion - could be something other. We know he’s a big time grifter.

You figure it out. But first, answer the question.

You posted it that he (sold) out his country? How did he do that and yes you did say it. How is this telling the truth and do you have a link to support that claim?

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=92766

F.B.I. Found 48 Empty Folders That Had Contained Classified Documents at Trump’s Home
A detailed inventory of items seized in the F.B.I.’s search of Mar-a-Lago raised the question of whether the government had fully recovered the documents or any remained missing.

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I.’s search of former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida club and residence last month recovered 48 empty folders marked as containing classified information, a newly disclosed court filing shows, raising the question of whether the government had fully recovered the documents or any remain missing.

The filing, a detailed list of items retrieved in the search, was unsealed on Friday as part of the court fight over whether to appoint an independent arbiter to review the materials taken by federal agents when they descended on Mr. Trump’s estate, Mar-a-Lago, on Aug. 8.

Along with the empty folders with classified markings, the F.B.I. also recovered 40 more empty folders that said they contained sensitive documents the user should “return to staff secretary/military aide,” the inventory said. It also said that agents found seven documents marked as “top secret” in Mr. Trump’s office and 11 more in a storage room.
The list and an accompanying court filing from the Justice Department did not say if all the contents of the empty folders had been recovered. But the filing noted that the inquiry into Mr. Trump’s handling of the documents remained “an active criminal investigation.”
The inventory listed seven batches of materials taken by the F.B.I. from Mr. Trump’s personal office at Mar-a-Lago that contained government-owned documents and photographs — some marked with classification levels up to “top secret” and some that were not marked as classified. The list also included batches of government documents that had been in 26 boxes or containers in a storage room at the compound.

In all, the list said, the F.B.I. retrieved 18 documents marked as top secret, 54 marked as secret, 31 marked as confidential — and 11,179 government documents or photographs without classification markings.

On Thursday, a federal judge in Florida, Aileen M. Cannon, ordered the inventory list to be released during a hearing to determine whether to appoint a so-called special master to review the government records seized from Mar-a-Lago for any that could be privileged. Judge Cannon said that she would issue a written decision on the matter “in due course.”
Mr. Trump appeared to acknowledge on social media this week that he knew that much of this material was at his estate, complaining about a photograph that the Justice Department released on Tuesday night that cataloged some of the evidence that had been seized.
The photograph showed several folders with “top secret” markings and some documents with classification markings visible. All of the material was arrayed on a carpet near a placard labeled “2A,” presumably to make a record of what was in a box of that number before the F.B.I. removed it from Mar-a-Lago.


Link: https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/5BPxZmAkV77VBETU7l4KvA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRk9LKVP0TtaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMi8wOS8wMi91cy9wb2xpdGljcy90cnVtcC1mYmktZm9sZGVycy1jbGFzc2lmaWVkLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9NjAmZW1jPWVkaXRfbmFfMjAyMjA5MDImaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9M

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Out the country. I have asked for a link for that proof. You have yet to do it and claim you are uniting people by telling the truth.

And to answer your question, I don’t know what he was doing with that stuff. Nothing has really be spelled out what exactly he took. If he took things that he wasn’t supposed, charge and prosecute him. It is that simple. Until charges are filed I will consider this another nothing burger, like every other time.

board. Someone who doesn't agree with you is not by default "far right". You on the other hand and further left than Chris, who at times can be reasonable. I lump you with Nocal, ND521, and Qwesty.

So, he does what the incompetent do - make it about everyone but themselves.

Joe is corrupt himself, make no mistake. But he is no longer calling any shots.

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insurrectionist followers are not welcome until they see the error of their ways...as some who have already pleaded guilty have done.

And Dem DAs refused to punish rioters in 2020. The respect for the "rule of law" is only lip service from Democrats.

“Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all the unifying agents. Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without a belief in a devil.”
Eric Hoffer, True Believer

Totally not a cult.

is no place here for him, and all those who believe in what he claims are also supporters of sedition. How do you welcome such people?

Fortunately, not all Republicans are Trump cultists and so we can indeed move forward...together...just not with the MAGA crowd...it's up to the GOP to make the necessary moves to deal with what could be called a "cancer" in its ranks.

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