McGraw is in the BB HOF. Bray is not.

Author: Aragoto (1841 Posts - Joined: May 14, 2018)

Posted at 9:07 pm on Jan 27, 2019

It is vulgar tripe to marginalize her accomplishments compared to the current slob of a man, Mick Brey.

Replies to: McGraw is in the BB HOF. Bray is not.


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Good God is it really that difficult to learn the names of our coaches?

Author: IrishChristopher (93 Posts - Joined: Sep 4, 2016)

Posted at 4:12 am on Jan 29, 2019

It's Brey not Bray
It's Weis not Weiss
It's Davie not Davies

This isn't that difficult.


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I've been deliberately misspelling Mike's name for years.

Author: Aragoto (1841 Posts - Joined: May 14, 2018)

Posted at 10:10 am on Jan 29, 2019

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Stop embarrassing yourself and stop being a demagogue.

Author: MAS (11176 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:28 pm on Jan 27, 2019

No one said she was anything but a great coach of women. The problem is that women's sports are weak, pale imitations of men's sports. Always have been and always will be. Women's college basketball, especially, where a few teams dominate and commonly see scores like 90-35. There's a weird, small subset of male sports fans who really get into women's sports, and I'm not the only one to note the weirdness of this subset. They clearly don't watch it to see great athletes executing a sport at the highest level. I'll leave you to explain why they get into it. The kids have come up with names for guys like this.

Given all that, to then see some of these bozos come on here and pretend that there's any comparison between the men's and women's game is too much. So, each time they get on here with this idiocy, I will comment on it and state the uncomfortable truths that bother them so much. Bothersome, because at some level, they understand it's true.


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The only one embarassing himself is

Author: subwaytom (961 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 am on Jan 28, 2019

You. Your illogic is surpassed only by your bigotry -- which has now expanded beyond mere misogyny to unveiled, not very clever character assassination. Clearly you would not suggest that college hoops is played at the level, or with the athletic prowess, of the pros? Or high school basketball instead of college or pros? What about people who watch and support baseball instead of basketball, or gymnastics instead of track, or college wrestling instead of basketball?

The kids have names for people like me?
The adults have names for people like you. But you apparently have few adults -- at least ones not suffering from emotional defects -- with whom to interact


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I think all he is saying is that women athletes do not even come close to men athletes of the same

Author: THEISMANCARR (9219 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 9:41 am on Jan 29, 2019

level of play. This mostly is attributed to strength and fast twitch muscle in male athletes. Now the average male might not have as much fast twitch as a female sprinter but if you compare female Division 1 to male Division 1 the female team would lose every time. The female Division 1 would probably lose to 90% of the time to mens' Division 2.

As for next year everyone is going to get better, Mooney will even get better, even though he will be a senior, Laczewski will improve vastly, and Goodwin is definitely a good player who will also improve as will the other freshmen because their greatest improvement is from freshmen to sophomore year generally. Also, Harvey is showing signs of regaining the form the made him a 4 star after the microfracture surgery following the injury took so much development time from him, along with the recovery physically.

The team right now cannot shoot for shit and that is the main problem. They are seldom in rhythm on their shots and I definitely feel that can be improved upon.


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They would lose 100% of the time. These guys are delusional about the disparities.

Author: MAS (11176 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:22 am on Jan 29, 2019

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Re: The only one embarassing himself is

Author: garryowen (2107 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 12:11 pm on Jan 28, 2019

Agreed. We like Muffet because she is a consistent winner. Look at how many sweet sixteens, elite eights, and final fours Muffet has been to. Not to mention two national championships. Obviously, Mas has a problem with women, Hope he gets some help. Sounds like he would be happy if the Irish just did away with women’s sports.

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No, actually the character assassination come from the geniuses calling Brey "a slob."

Author: MAS (11176 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 am on Jan 28, 2019

You guys get on here and act obnoxiously, time after time, ad nauseum, about Brey being mediocre and how "he could learn a thing or two from Muffet." Maybe you'll have the integrity to answer my question: why do none of these spectacular women's coaches get hired as men's coaches? Also, why do we see so many of these totally lopsided scores in the women's game? Why do we always have a few teams dominating the sport? What is it about the women's game that you like?

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I do think part of the appeal of the women's game is that because they are not physically able to

Author: THEISMANCARR (9219 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 9:49 am on Jan 29, 2019

jump as high or run as fast causes them to play a more team type game. Passing is emphasized and they have to finish layups rather than just dunk the ball. You do see some wild shots in the women's game from close range that you never see in the men's game. Shots that go over the backboard or even clank the bottom of the backboard, some really ugly stuff. Usually though at the top teams, say 5 or so of them, you see pretty good ball movement. Remember when dunking was not allowed in the men's game and they missed layups too. That is why I will always remember bill Walton's 23 of 24 shots made in the finals against Memphis because he did not dunk one ball. You do see some ugly layups in the women's game and some of the shots on fast breaks are completely out of control, even with the top 5 teams, and you rarely see that in the men's game.

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The men's college game is quintessential team ball.

Author: MAS (11176 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:25 am on Jan 29, 2019

I give you high marks for attempting to explain why they get into the women's game, but I suspect such explanations are how they try to explain it after the fact, like the "the women have better fundamentals" nonsense. You can't be serious and understand the game of basketball to think the women execute better fundamentals.

If it was about less dunking and so forth, these guys would primarily be fans of Division 2/3 men's basketball.


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Re: The men's college game is quintessential team ball.

Author: THEISMANCARR (9219 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Jan 30, 2019

I might have been a little clumsy in my explanation. Of course their fundamentals are not as good as the men's but relatively they seem to make a greater attempt at executing fundamentals because that is what they are physically able to do. The men's game is way better and if the best of their players played a mediocre group of men players they would lose by a ton. I have been on your side on this.

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correct. no mas, please.

Author: und67 (5057 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 am on Jan 28, 2019

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