NFL officials channeled the Big 10 in the SB thus capping off a magnificently terrible year.

Author: BaronVonZemo (22595 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:52 pm on Feb 3, 2019

The "hitting a defensless player' call against the Rams who hadd all of the momentum with NE 3 and 20 inside their own 10 yd line and stuffed for a loss changed the complexion of the game - at least in the first half. i counted 10 obvious mistakes of various sorts.

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Here is the rule

Author: Dinglewood (336 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:01 pm on Feb 4, 2019

This is one of many judgement calls that can or not be penalized. The player safety mindset behind rules like this results in the officials getting guidance that if it is "close" penalize it in order to establish the spirit of the rule. Aside: thought the hit on the QB going out of bounds probably should have gotten a flag based on this logic.

"A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player"

In the context above looked to be a "good" call albeit in the "good old days" this and the QB situation would have been good defensive football.

This link explains what a "defenseless player" looks like in a variety of situations: https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/defenseless-player/

Another aside: Would love to see a TV broadcast in which they had a graphic with the rule and how it is to be enforced ending with "now let's see the play in slow motion" (with no commentary describing what is being shown) ... and then back to discussing the play with someone who actually knows the rules and what the NFL (ACC or whatever) have told their officials about applying it.


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But you know what is funny about that second part. If you have to watch the player catch the ball,

Author: THEISMANCARR (9215 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 1:17 pm on Feb 5, 2019

make a move and then you can hit him. How is any defender going to execute "perfect timing" when the ball and the defender arrive at the same time.

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My take

Author: Dinglewood (336 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:08 pm on Feb 5, 2019

Don't want to defend the rule but ...

Think if you asked the folk who wrote the rule their answer would be "we don't want this type of contact to happen ... but if it does it will be a penalty."

For what is worth I look at this type of play like a punter returner trying to catch (and not fumble) the ball in traffic where in only seems logical that there be "room" before he gets hit. As with many newer rules this penalizes the D but it does reflect the general mindset that the defender has to play the ball vice the man.


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Blame the rule, not the officials, for that call

Author: CC72 (13747 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 1:50 pm on Feb 4, 2019

That said, the stupid rules changes coupled with incompetent officials made the entire season horrible.

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Except that the officials usually don't call that BS, and they also called Sullivan for holding and

Author: BaronVonZemo (22595 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Feb 4, 2019

I am sure that they could find some rule to defend that BS call as well.

Another egregious call was when they caled the critical 3rd down catch by the Rams a reception on the sideline when he obviously had only one foot in bounds.


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BVZ, I would not say that the catch by Woods being out of bounds was as obvious as you claim

Author: Irish_Demon (1336 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:29 am on Feb 5, 2019

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OLs hold on every play. The call on Sullivan was unusual

Author: CC72 (13747 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 6:22 pm on Feb 4, 2019

as I said, the officials are horrible.

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"The Worst People Win Again"

Author: lacan (414 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 1:37 pm on Feb 4, 2019
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Wild to me that the MVP had to sit four games to start the season for PED’s

Author: Rocket91 (5100 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:25 pm on Feb 4, 2019

It’s not even a story. If it’s baseball he’s gotta sit half the season and is ineligible for post season play.

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Forgot about that.

Author: iairishcheeks (9338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Feb 4, 2019

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Me too. I was thinking, Wow he looks like a roid monkey!

Author: StreetFightingIrish (1562 Posts - Joined: Dec 15, 2010)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Feb 4, 2019

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That call was huge and total bullshit. Los Angeles had them on the ropes at that point.

Author: THEISMANCARR (9215 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 11:17 am on Feb 4, 2019

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A complete horseshit call was what

Author: ColeyO (812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Feb 4, 2019

Put them in SB to begin with. NO and Brees would have much better match up.

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True but that is a different game. Yesterday is the call we are talking about and it was horrible.

Author: THEISMANCARR (9215 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Feb 4, 2019

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Yes, of course, but they're mutually exclusive. One doesn't excuse the other

Author: Irish_Demon (1336 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:38 pm on Feb 4, 2019

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It's just a bad overall entertainment product

Author: ND_in_DRO (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 9:10 am on Feb 4, 2019

Players aren't as good, schemes are more vanilla, officiating is terrible. Brady is the best ever, but even he is past his peak as evidenced by the fact his team scored only 13 points. The rest of the league is just worse.

The NFL is in decline. Ratings will continue to plummet...as a result so will player/coach salaries. It will have an effect on college football, but hard to tell how or what it means for ND.


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The product is generally mediocre but I like hard hitting defensive intense games. Mahones is one

Author: THEISMANCARR (9215 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 11:19 am on Feb 4, 2019

player who could really help the league.

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ratings up 5% in 2018

Author: LanceHarbor (12680 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:33 am on Feb 4, 2019

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Even so, still down 14% in past 3 years including this uptick, and SB was least watched in 10 years.

Author: BaronVonZemo (22595 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Feb 4, 2019
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Not yesterday though, ratings down. Headline called game Super Bore but I happen to like games

Author: THEISMANCARR (9215 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 11:21 am on Feb 4, 2019

that are close throughout where the game is great defensively, and very physical rather than ping pong up and down the field offense performances.

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In order for "ratings (to) continue to plummet" they need to actually be going down

Author: LanceHarbor (12680 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:26 am on Feb 4, 2019

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