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“Phil Jurkovec Wanted To Find Belief“,

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:24 pm on Jan 31, 2020
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Link: https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/11702/phil-jurkovec-wanted-to-find-belief

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Thread Level: 2

Handled that interview well. Good wishes to him.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:06 am on Feb 14, 2020
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Sometimes shit just doesn’t work out. Hope he succeeds.

Author: faircatchcorby (9806 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:18 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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Two things I want to know:

Author: lacan (1433 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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1) When he put his name into the transfer portal, what interest was shown? Curious, because he transferred to ... BC?
2) What is the basis of his application for a waiver?


Thread Level: 3

I believe his HS coach is now at BC

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:58 pm on Feb 3, 2020
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Next savior please step into the Kelly transformer. Good luck.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:48 am on Feb 2, 2020
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If he had been a good QB, he would have gotten more playing time and more praise.

Author: 565 Zahm Hall (373 Posts - Joined: Sep 2, 2017)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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Coaches do not keep great QBs on the bench because they are obstreperous. He looked bad in the 2019 Blue-Gold game.

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I also don’t get the feeling he was obstreperous.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:07 am on Feb 14, 2020
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Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts...many QBs disagree with you.

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:28 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So they recruited a bad QB. He was recruited because he would fit “ the system”. He wasn’t played

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:21 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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because he supposedly didn’t fit the system.

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Not always true. I got to meet former Atlanta Hawk Charlie Criss, and here's what he said

Author: MarkHarman (7275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:36 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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He languished in the old Continental Basketball Association for seven years because no one in the NBA would give him a chance. When he got a chance, he stuck for 8 years.

Sometimes - make that oftentimes - coaches sit the better player for whatever reason. Look at Dexter Williams. He languished on the bench for three years even though he was clearly the better running back than Josh Adams.


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Adams was a more productive player than Williams

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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Plus he didn’t get arrested.

Adams 3 year career at ND of 480 rushes averaged 6.7 yards per carry. In his 4 years, Williams averaged 6.4 yards per carry.

4 rushes for 11 yards in Williams’ rookie season- Green Bay didn’t trust him either.


Link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/dairylandexpress.com/2019/10/08/green-bay-packers-still-dont-trust-dexter-williams/amp/

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I'm sorry, but what does production have to do with it? You can cite all the statistics you want

Author: lacan (1433 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 2:59 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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showing what an exceptional RB Adams was for ND, but it's irrelevant. Williams would have had even better statistics if given the chance, therefore he was "clearly the better running back". QED

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You Are Delusional

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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"what does production have to do with it" didn't clue you in?

Author: lacan (1433 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 11:24 pm on Feb 2, 2020
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You appear to be clueless

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 2:56 pm on Feb 3, 2020
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Just to be clear, since I started following ND football in the mid-2000s, Adams wasn't only,

Author: lacan (1433 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Feb 3, 2020
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in my opinion, the best ND RB, he was one of the best players period.

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Though true, you'll never convince the board about the Dex vs. Josh Adams piece.

Author: oldirish (9327 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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I think he’ll do fine at BC and make the ND coaches look silly. He’s a good kid.

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:52 am on Feb 1, 2020
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I wish PJ all the success in the world, happy he picked BC, but make ND coaches look silly?

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 11:41 am on Feb 1, 2020
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Cmon now...what in the world did you want them to do, they played the QB who won the job, and gave them their best chance to win games which is what they are paid to do..

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Obviously correct.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:08 am on Feb 14, 2020
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No issue with Book winning the job. There were some games where PJ should have received more reps.

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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In that article, he alludes to development. It will be interesting to see what happens to him at BC. I’ll be rooting for him. Change can be a good thing and I’m sure the pressure there will be less for him than at ND.

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if PJ was good he would have gotten reps, but the gap was too wide

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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From what I’ve read Montana wasn’t any outstanding practice QB but the rest is history. Thank God he

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 am on Feb 2, 2020
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got in a few games to see what he could do.

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This is often the most overlooked fact of the PJ phenomenon.

Author: oldirish (9327 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:01 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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There were games I wanted more of Phil, but I have noticed;

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 3:55 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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delete

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 4:03 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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Re: There were games I wanted more of Phil, but I have noticed;

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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its not just kELLY Coaches seem to let the starting QB in way past what is necessary, wasn't Saban criticized for having Tua in still games past romps..I see Tom Brady, maybe the GOAT, in games past being over, all the time..

In not saying that's right, I agree with you, but coaches do it...AND while a few extra reps would have helped his development, it wouldn't have kept him at ND

I was as sick as anyone to see him leave, with the rich Tradition of western, Pa QBS, ND has in Hanratty, Clements, Montana wasn't Lujack too...I was hoping we could add Phil to list Good luck to him..


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Said all the right things. Best wishes for him

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8035 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 am on Feb 1, 2020
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 2

This is beyond “Belief”...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33491 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:24 am on Feb 1, 2020
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It's pretty evident in what he has said that he did not believe the coaches had faith in

Author: DadUdaMan4 (1007 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:37 am on Feb 1, 2020
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him, did not develop him, and did not allow him an opportunity to show what he could do. We'll likely never know the truth. I do agree that he never got much of a chance to show what he could do, even in those games where he could have played. Good luck to him and I hope he has made the right decision.

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Dayne Crist 2.0. New setting may help his confidence, but he had none at ND. The coaches weren't

Author: BaronVonZemo (59849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:18 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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wrong on this. Lots of talent below the ears, No confidence above them.

hopefully, with a new coach who is willing to trust him, he can solve this problem. He has NFL level physical talent.


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How do you show confidence when your coaches stick you in a corner.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Feb 1, 2020
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He had a very good QBR playing with scrubs in mop up duty. It would have been even higher without dropped balls. The few times he was allowed to throw he completed his passes.

Confidence was not Phil’s problem moving forward.

Confidence in him caused the transfer.

You don’t develop without reps and meaningful playing time. He needed more reps in blowout games.

rees is a cop-nad kicking goofball.
What was he going to teach Phil?
How to bomb out in the NFL?

Dane Crist was physically fragile.
Phil is a tough kid.

Time will tell.


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Crist was a deer in headlights at ND. PJ was also. Spring Games were too much.New setting might help

Author: BaronVonZemo (59849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:15 am on Feb 2, 2020
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Spring game was in the rear view mirror. According to kelly himself.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 10:19 am on Feb 2, 2020
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Phil performed well in mop up duty.
His QBR is proof. So is the film.

Kelly has a history of poor development of QBs.

Phil had the guts to say no.


Thread Level: 2

I hope he finds success.

Author: faircatchcorby (9806 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Jan 31, 2020
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