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to beat teams that are more talented than us. My feeling is he can for one game, but can he for two?

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who competes. He’s also faster than a lot give him credit for and his arm is at least decent. Size and happy feet can be problems.

a hard evaluation from some here in particular because of the Michigan game last Fall, but I was at that game, and it was absolutely brutal weather. Even Joe Burrow could not have won with Kelly's gameplan of throwing as much as he was asked to do.

I like Book. He is good, but not great so far. he might get to "very good", but his physical limitations seem to guarantee problems against the elite defenses.

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Please stop.

thus far, against elite defenses his physical ceiling appears to be too low. I am willing to acknowledge that the apparent ceiling may be a function of the OL underperforming, it was hard to tell. I am very glad we have him, but he is not an elite QB at this point.

PS addendum - he is light years ahead of Rees. I was being facetious and I undoubtedly unfair with that comment.

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Back in 2011, anything over 10 yards of a throw was pretty much a contested catch. Tommy Rees was fortunate that he had receivers the likes of Michael Floyd and (in 2013) TJ Jones, who could fight for those catches and have a reasonable chance of winning them. Without the vertical game, and with no QB running threat, half of the offensive playbook was all but crippled in 2011 and 2013.

The running joke (sad, but true) was that to stop the ND offense in 2013, all you had to do was rush three, and drop 8 into a short zone coverage. It's no secret that Brian Kelly didn't trust the running game in 2013, even though we were averaging about 5 yards a carry (if you don't include Rees' sack yardage), which further crippled the offense.

While Ian Book will never be known for having a strong arm, and could arguably be classified as on the lower end of average arm strength, it's still a significant improvement.

Ian Book can make those 15 to 30 yard throws with some decent zip on them, which opens up a lot more of the vertical game than we ever had when Tommy Rees was at the helm. Those throws by Book are much less likely to become contested catches compared to Rees.

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“lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws” and “does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer.”

From the NFL draft scouting report on Brees. Sound familiar?

seem to watch real games and go off combine stats and measurables which are just uninhibited practice stats.

And the sixth highest for the post season. That indicates he run the offensive game plan as efficiently and effectively than almost all other qbs.

I can't remember which pro qb was being interviewed, but he was asked if he'd rather have a game with multiple TD throws, but a couple picks. Or a game with no TD tosses, but no picks. He said the latter. The most important element of his performance was no mistakes, either on his part, or the offense. I know most people get swept up in highlights, but you gotta remember it's about executing the game plan, not the highlights....

I do, however, hope that he can prove us wrong.

have been given playing time and that Kelly didn’t give him real game time experience to prove his worth to calling Book mediocre.

It is our experience watching Kelly he isn’t a very good QB coach.

Regardless of the list and who puts it out it's pretty hard to be considered top 5 or 10 at a position. This also proves the kid has some skill though 90% of this board thinks he stinks.

The proof is in the stats of actual games not in the imagination of these guys' minds and their fantasies about unproductive ex-4 & 5* recruits. This board remembers the one or two plays that wowed them by mostly unpreductive players that were once HS gods. They continually overlook the consistency of execution by the guys that actually produce who may or may not have been highly recruited. Kelly suffers from this same form of brain damage. I wouldn't be shocked to find out one day that Kelly himself was one of these deranged posters.

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Tagovailoa was locked in on playing for Mike Locksley, and I honestly doubt that he was looking at any other place with nearly as much interest.

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lives

of sarcasm. Pretty damn funny actually. I hope he lights it up and steals the Heisman—-and gets a little help / luck along the way. We haven’t had natty or a Heisy for about the same amount of time. That blows.