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I prefer independance but being in a conference is so much easier because

Author: oldirish (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:48 pm on Dec 3, 2020
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you primarily face 1 style of offense all season vs. 2 types of option, smash mouth, spread and air-raid (or a version of it). That's really hard to try to defend 5 different styles of offense alternating week in and out throughout the season.

Not to mention, the 7 or 8 other teams in a conference are much weaker than what we play.

Granted in a regular season we'd also add back some of the games we had to give up but it's still way easier in a conference.


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Thread Level: 2

I wouldn't consider the ACC easy.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25810 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:58 am on Dec 4, 2020
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Most of the programs are somewhat down right now, but historically are much stronger.

FSU, VT, ect.

And playing those teams every year would be incredibly boring. As for varied offenses, most teams are more the same then you think.

Fuck the ACC.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 3

Agreed on boring conference. That's what I dislike. But Most conferences have 3 powers a few

Author: oldirish (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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medicore's and a bunch of duds, annually. The SEC fits this as well.

The ACC in my opinion for the last decade really has only had 1-2 powers annually and mostly duds.


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ND would instantly make the ACC more difficult and help the other programs as well

Author: Curly1918 (16437 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:05 am on Dec 4, 2020
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We created the Miami monster and when we dropped them the program fell off. Both they and FSU are sleeping giants. North Carolina is also an incredibly attractive school. The SEC will begin losing recruits to the ACC as these programs improve. It's addition by subtraction.

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How did ND create Miami?

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25810 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:59 am on Dec 4, 2020
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Sure, ND played them when they were just starting to get going, but Miami won in 2001, long after they stopped playing ND.

Miami has won 3 national titles since ND last won it.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 5

How ND created Miami

Author: Curly1918 (16437 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:00 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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Miami was previously a small poor local school with no conference, no tradition and nearly no football team altogether... and in the 70's actually considered dropping the sport because of funding and lack of overall interest. Then Schnellenberger led them to the 1983 national championship as an independent with a very weak schedule. Subsequently, the arrival of coach Jimmy Johnson (who was fleeing to Miami from Stillwater, Oklahoma), and his 58-7 thrashing of a once-proud Notre Dame in 1985, changed both programs. Johnson was able to corner a talent-rich region of South Florida, recruited young men from poor neighborhoods... because he had a TV national rival. Without ND Miami would have been practically invisible and its National Championship as great an anomaly as that of BYU in 1984.

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Our base is national, would hate to lose the exposure and interest from the masses

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 6:56 am on Dec 4, 2020
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We will always have a national base. We truly are "America's Team". However if football goes down

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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like so many leftists want, it will take us down with it.

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Leftists dislike football? Naw! Just feminists.

Author: Curly1918 (16437 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:05 am on Dec 5, 2020
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It's all penis envy. They want to dress up like giant phalluses and get intot the end zone also.

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Q says football is safe...

Author: Law_Dogg (1006 Posts - Joined: Oct 3, 2014)

Posted at 10:19 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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...don't worry, the leftists are just blowing smoke. #WWG1WGA

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We can play a game/year in California, the masses live on the East Coast and we are in the Midwest

Author: Curly1918 (16437 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:09 am on Dec 4, 2020
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We got the nation covered.

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doesn't seem to hurt OSU, Clemson or Alabama. Winning cures all ills.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16206 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 am on Dec 4, 2020
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Those are regional teams in state, in a regional conference

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 7:12 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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Conference is easier but wouldn’t the national exposure potentially be less? Our deal with

Author: Irish83 (313 Posts - Joined: Oct 11, 2019)

Posted at 12:08 am on Dec 4, 2020
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NBC keeps us on the television screen even when we have a down year. If Notre Dame could join the ACC but continue to negotiate its own television deals - while obviously sharing the revenue. - and play USC every year, then I don’t see any drawbacks.

Thread Level: 3

Would you trade "national exposure" for national championships like Alabama?

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:12 am on Dec 4, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Sure, if joining the ACC would make ND into Alabama.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25810 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:00 am on Dec 4, 2020
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It wouldn't.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 5

Alabama...Clemson...what's the difference?

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:42 am on Dec 5, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Yep. The TV deal would have to stay as is.

Author: oldirish (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:09 am on Dec 4, 2020
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I don't know, the ACC Network is a real up and comer.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25810 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:02 am on Dec 4, 2020
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ND could play on Friday nights!

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 5

I've always assumed ACC allowed the ties with ND to someway get access to NBC once the marriage

Author: oldirish (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 1:01 pm on Dec 4, 2020
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became official at some point. I think it's a chip ND can use to bargain for things they really want but also get access to easier ways to a championship through the conference system that basically is a requirement now.

Thread Level: 2

Who wouldn't want to be indepedent but a conference gives you a better shot at reaching playoffs,

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 11:49 pm on Dec 3, 2020
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so I say remain in ACC and schedule USC every year and other reasonable to good opponents once a year also. And if only 8 conference games required schedule another solid opponent. Better shot at title. And the ACC is the one we saved football but they allowed us to.

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All true

Author: Law_Dogg (1006 Posts - Joined: Oct 3, 2014)

Posted at 11:25 pm on Dec 3, 2020
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