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I prefer independance but being in a conference is so much easier because

oldirish 9529 posts Joined: Oct 8, 2011

Posted10:48 pm on Dec 3, 2020

you primarily face 1 style of offense all season vs. 2 types of option, smash mouth, spread and air-raid (or a version of it). That's really hard to try to defend 5 different styles of offense alternating week in and out throughout the season.

Not to mention, the 7 or 8 other teams in a conference are much weaker than what we play.

Granted in a regular season we'd also add back some of the games we had to give up but it's still way easier in a conference.

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I wouldn't consider the ACC easy.

AlbanyIRISH 26997 posts 7:58 am on Dec 4, 2020

Most of the programs are somewhat down right now, but historically are much stronger.

FSU, VT, ect.

And playing those teams every year would be incredibly boring. As for varied offenses, most teams are more the same then you think.

Fuck the ACC.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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  Agreed on boring conference. That's what I dislike. But Most conferences have 3 powers a few
  
  oldirish OP9529 posts 1:04 pm on Dec 4, 2020
  
  medicore's and a bunch of duds, annually. The SEC fits this as well.
  
  The ACC in my opinion for the last decade really has only had 1-2 powers annually and mostly duds.
  
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  ND would instantly make the ACC more difficult and help the other programs as well
  
  Curly1918 18368 posts 9:05 am on Dec 4, 2020
  
  We created the Miami monster and when we dropped them the program fell off. Both they and FSU are sleeping giants. North Carolina is also an incredibly attractive school. The SEC will begin losing recruits to the ACC as these programs improve. It's addition by subtraction.
  
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    How did ND create Miami?
    
    AlbanyIRISH 26997 posts 10:59 am on Dec 4, 2020
    
    Sure, ND played them when they were just starting to get going, but Miami won in 2001, long after they stopped playing ND.
    
    Miami has won 3 national titles since ND last won it.
    
    Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
    Invincibility with no vulnerability
    
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      How ND created Miami
      
      Curly1918 18368 posts 12:00 pm on Dec 4, 2020
      
      Miami was previously a small poor local school with no conference, no tradition and nearly no football team altogether... and in the 70's actually considered dropping the sport because of funding and lack of overall interest. Then Schnellenberger led them to the 1983 national championship as an independent with a very weak schedule. Subsequently, the arrival of coach Jimmy Johnson (who was fleeing to Miami from Stillwater, Oklahoma), and his 58-7 thrashing of a once-proud Notre Dame in 1985, changed both programs. Johnson was able to corner a talent-rich region of South Florida, recruited young men from poor neighborhoods... because he had a TV national rival. Without ND Miami would have been practically invisible and its National Championship as great an anomaly as that of BYU in 1984.
      
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Our base is national, would hate to lose the exposure and interest from the masses

DonMiller 3372 posts 6:56 am on Dec 4, 2020

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  We will always have a national base. We truly are "America's Team". However if football goes down
  
  THEISMANCARR 18125 posts 6:18 pm on Dec 4, 2020
  
  like so many leftists want, it will take us down with it.
  
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    Leftists dislike football? Naw! Just feminists.
    
    Curly1918 18368 posts 8:05 am on Dec 5, 2020
    
    It's all penis envy. They want to dress up like giant phalluses and get intot the end zone also.
    
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    Q says football is safe...
    
    Law_Dogg 1021 posts 10:19 pm on Dec 4, 2020
    
    ...don't worry, the leftists are just blowing smoke. #WWG1WGA
    
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  We can play a game/year in California, the masses live on the East Coast and we are in the Midwest
  
  Curly1918 18368 posts 9:09 am on Dec 4, 2020
  
  We got the nation covered.
  
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  doesn't seem to hurt OSU, Clemson or Alabama. Winning cures all ills.
  
  WestCoastIrishFan 17092 posts 8:33 am on Dec 4, 2020
  
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    Those are regional teams in state, in a regional conference
    
    DonMiller 3372 posts 7:12 pm on Dec 4, 2020
    
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Conference is easier but wouldn’t the national exposure potentially be less? Our deal with

Irish83 313 posts 12:08 am on Dec 4, 2020

NBC keeps us on the television screen even when we have a down year. If Notre Dame could join the ACC but continue to negotiate its own television deals - while obviously sharing the revenue. - and play USC every year, then I don’t see any drawbacks.

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  Would you trade "national exposure" for national championships like Alabama?
  
  NedoftheHill 47382 posts 1:12 am on Dec 4, 2020
  
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  Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
  
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    Sure, if joining the ACC would make ND into Alabama.
    
    AlbanyIRISH 26997 posts 8:00 am on Dec 4, 2020
    
    It wouldn't.
    Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
    Invincibility with no vulnerability
    
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      Alabama...Clemson...what's the difference?
      
      NedoftheHill 47382 posts 12:42 am on Dec 5, 2020
      
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      Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
      
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  Yep. The TV deal would have to stay as is.
  
  oldirish OP9529 posts 12:09 am on Dec 4, 2020
  
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    I don't know, the ACC Network is a real up and comer.
    
    AlbanyIRISH 26997 posts 8:02 am on Dec 4, 2020
    
    ND could play on Friday nights!
    Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
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      I've always assumed ACC allowed the ties with ND to someway get access to NBC once the marriage
      
      oldirish OP9529 posts 1:01 pm on Dec 4, 2020
      
      became official at some point. I think it's a chip ND can use to bargain for things they really want but also get access to easier ways to a championship through the conference system that basically is a requirement now.
      
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Who wouldn't want to be indepedent but a conference gives you a better shot at reaching playoffs,

THEISMANCARR 18125 posts 11:49 pm on Dec 3, 2020

so I say remain in ACC and schedule USC every year and other reasonable to good opponents once a year also. And if only 8 conference games required schedule another solid opponent. Better shot at title. And the ACC is the one we saved football but they allowed us to.

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All true

Law_Dogg 1021 posts 11:25 pm on Dec 3, 2020

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