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Notre Dame Football Adds 4-Star BIG RB to 2021 Recruiting Class

Author: UHND (3587 Posts - Joined: Dec 28, 2012)

Posted at 2:35 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Link: Notre Dame Football Adds 4-Star BIG RB to 2021 Recruiting Class

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Thread Level: 2

Looks like another special player

Author: DonMiller (1575 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 6:36 am on Dec 19, 2020
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reminds me a little of a longer leaner Ricky Williams

Author: croaker (498 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:35 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Good athlete with effective but not overwhelming speed whose physicality and balance define is style.

I could see with his height and strength developing a lethal stiff arm. What I saw on film was good, but seemed more to be used to just keep the tackler off of him. Love to see him use it as more of a blow to punish the D.


Thread Level: 3

More Cedric Benson than Ricky.

Author: jakers (9693 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:21 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Cedric Benson was a beast on the field. Saw him in high school...wow.

Author: NedoftheHill (31585 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Think what the Irish could do with a back like that.

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First Freedom, then Glory—when that fails, wealth, vice, corruption—barbarism at last. - Byron
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Except Ricky Williams was a speedster.

Author: Chrisb (10595 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:17 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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"He gots to go!!!"
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...or at least for his size he was (4.5 40)...AE isn't as big as Williams and from what's out there

Author: Chrisb (10595 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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he doesn't have close to 4.5 speed. He does however show very good game speed in pads, but not like what Williams had.

"He gots to go!!!"
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Big-time pick up. At 6-1 215 reminds of a shiftier Ohio POY Tony Fisher.

Author: Karamello (2757 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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perhaps a great Will?

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (10552 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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He reminds me of Rodney Culver look wise and body build type. I hope he is as good.

Author: THEISMANCARR (12078 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:40 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Re: He reminds me of Rodney Culver look wise and body build type. I hope he is as good.

Author: Rocketman84 (123 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Culver was 5'10 225 and ran 4.39 at ND, he's probably a slower version of Jonas Gray pr maybe Tony Fisher

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Rodney Culver did NOT run a 4.39. No idea where you got that.

Author: jakers (9693 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Check out his combine times. Almost 4.7.

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Re: Rodney Culver did NOT run a 4.39. No idea where you got that.

Author: Rocketman84 (123 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:01 am on Jan 27, 2021
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He ran a 4.39 and 4.41 during '90 Spring Testing before the injury, he ran poorly at the combine after aggravating a prior injury but ran 4.49 at his Pro day! Just watch him on many of Rockets returns he was pretty damn fast!

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4.64 at the combines, but he did run a 4.38 at one time

Author: ndunabomber (2996 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:35 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Rodney Culver was dealing with injuries in 1991.

When fully healthy, he did run a legit 4.40. There were times in 1989 that he did some spot starting at split end.

The link mentioned may help jog some memories.


Link: https://books.google.com/books?id=taDheRPwun4C&pg=PA368&lpg=PA368&dq=rodney+culver+40+yard+dash+time&source=bl&ots=j6o3_GgXN8&sig=ACfU3U0XWqTfqEMK8EH8neL19Gd_o7yhBg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikgKbKm9ntAhWkzlkKHYSrAbY4ChDoATAJegQICBAC#v=onepage&q=rodney%20culv

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Thread Level: 6

Baloney.

Author: jakers (9693 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:07 am on Dec 19, 2020
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I have no idea what basis they used for reporting that, but he never ran a legitimate 4.38. In the old programs in the 90's Bert Berry's profile listed him at 4.35, and we know that was nonsense.

These self-reported times from high school or hand-timed runs after practice are meaningless. Culver was not a sub-4.4 runner.


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Re: Baloney.

Author: Rocketman84 (123 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:05 am on Jan 27, 2021
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Bert Berry was about 218 in HS but he was running mid-4.4s early in his career at 230 and ran 4.5 at 245, he was around 255 as a Pro and still a high 4.5 guy.

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I don't think Culver was ever THAT fast...if I recall Waters ran like 4.41 or 4.44 and..

Author: Chrisb (10595 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:19 am on Dec 19, 2020
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Waters was definitely faster than Culver.

"He gots to go!!!"
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Watters ran a 4.69 at the Combine. He wasn't a blazer.

Author: jakers (9693 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:03 am on Dec 19, 2020
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He did have excellent acceleration and quickness, though.

Thread Level: 8

Wow!

Author: Chrisb (10595 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Dec 19, 2020
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Can't believe I was that far off...I woulda swore Watters was much faster than that.

"He gots to go!!!"
Thread Level: 9

He had so many tools.

Author: jakers (9693 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:00 pm on Dec 19, 2020
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His burst was exceptional, he had great "wiggle" and agility, and got superb leverage for a tall guy. He just didn't have great straight-line speed, but that was irrelevant to his success.

Thread Level: 9

Yep. This is one of the reasons I hate that fans put so much weight on 40 times.

Author: Napoleon (3932 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 12:48 pm on Dec 19, 2020
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And other standard measures. Lots of great athletes don’t have great 40 times (or bang out 30 reps or whatever).

Link: https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=25251

Thread Level: 2

Kelly " Bully Ball" is alive and Very Well! Warm up the Bus

Author: ColeyO (4340 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:13 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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We all have the utmost Estime for him!

Author: NDQuebec (1343 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:00 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Welcome Audric!

Author: BaronVonZemo (33886 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:09 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Great pickup! He will thrive behind our outstanding OL.

Author: Irishize (1254 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Thread Level: 3

Exactly.

Author: NedoftheHill (31585 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:14 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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First Freedom, then Glory—when that fails, wealth, vice, corruption—barbarism at last. - Byron
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Nice... let's cap the trifecta tomorrow!

Author: Chrisb (10595 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Dec 18, 2020
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Go Irish!

"He gots to go!!!"
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