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Unless Dabo and Saban Leave

Author: ryanfi14 (179 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2015)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Alabama and Clemson will always have the best teams in the county. You got the top 2 coaches in the sport with the top players in the sport. Nothing is going to change until they leave. They both coach the best and Recruit the best.

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No, but as long as the CFP exists as it does now, that will be the case.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59892 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:03 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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It's a self fulfilling prophecy with only 4 spots in the CFP, and the committee using "the eye test" which is subjective, and of course, we all know who has the best eye tests based on recruiting...in fact, the committee told what it is ahead of time by the recruiting services.
Thus teams like Alabama and Clemson and OSU and Oklahoma have work hard to be removed from a spot (look at how badly Ok screwed up this year, and they still came within a hair of getting a spot with two losses.
The top recruits want to play on a playoff team, thus they are stacking up on the runway to sign with these same teams.

The key is to open up to 8 or 12 playoff spots. Then the recruits will spread themselves out for better parity.


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Jimbo is ready to join the party.

Author: koreasam (527 Posts - Joined: Mar 28, 2017)

Posted at 3:52 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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As soon as I heard he was going to A & M I thought "he's shady enough and has a great recruiting base in Texas" to win it all.

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Re: Jimbo is ready to join the party.

Author: ryanfi14 (179 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2015)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Yea but if they can’t beat Bama or LSU consistently they will never be in an SEC championship game.

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I will slightly disagree. IMO, at some point in time, someone's ego will eat one's brain. Continued

Author: faircatchcorby (9807 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 3:08 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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success at this level of football is a powerful demon if left unchecked. Someone------Saban, Day, Dabo, etc.-----will reach that stage of "I am bullet proof" and the dominoes will begin to fall. It's happened before at places like Baylor, USC, Ped State and I'm sure a few others. A tipping point is reached in any number of ways----bribes, academic cheating, legal trouble for players or coaches, steroid scandals are a few----that causes the Goliaths to begin falling. It could start in one year, three years or ten years but something will happen to change the course of of a program's success.

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with no academics

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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They've earned it

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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That's the way the cookie crumbles.

Until some other coach finally takes those next steps to follow that kind of a blueprint, those two guys can simply sit back, smile, and say "it's good to be the king."

Who knows? Maybe Lincoln Riley or Ryan Day can be in that echelon some day, or maybe Brian Kelly can get those elite talent athletes who can play from day one, but until then, someone's going to have to make it happen.


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Agreed, and you cant have it both ways, not necessarily you, but a few here, don t want Urban.

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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IMO, he's the only guy out there who would/could take ND to the summit, No Urban, I dont know who's better than Kelly to take ND to a title..So I get it, I understand those who reject him,( Id take him in a heartbeat) but dont complain about the state of the program while rejecting Urban He's the one sure thing to elevate it..I dont believe any of these top guys are squeaky clean..

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I came to these boards because I wanted Ty gone and ND to get Urban more than anything. However...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33493 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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that ship has sailed...and it ain't coming back.

It's not a question of wanting Meyer or not wanting him...he's not coming here...


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A reported close friend of Urban's, on the Coweird show recently while discussing the Urban rumors

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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said its likely the NFL ship has sailed, and he's not interested in a traditional rival of OSU such as scUM or maybe even a yearly opponent of OSU....and added he may never coach again, sounded likely

He concluded, "perhaps if the ND job opened, he could be interested'
Dont shoot the messenger, thats what I heard Perhaps you know more than me..


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Wow. Be careful. Something like that could really get the masses clamoring. lol

Author: Irish_Demon (2775 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Thats why Ive been reluctant to post it here, lol

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:47 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Dabo wasn't always there. He joined the party...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33493 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Yep, like he has said. He was on the ROY bus. He's only recently hopped on the first bus.

Author: Irish_Demon (2775 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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I agree, theyre never going away, and add in tOSU, BUT

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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Im not in favor of changing the system, i.e., reducing scholarships, simply because two guys have figured out how to dominate
Two pundits, Kirk Herbstreit, and Jim Nantz have spoken out recently that college football is broken, and partly because of these two/ three dominating.....One change I think we'll see soon, is the 8 team playoff Someone on Coweird said its coming At least that would give more teams incentive of making the playoffs It seems like the 4 spot in recent yrs, is now the only spot worthy of discussion..


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NCAA should reduce scholarships to 70.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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why? we had 95 and went to 85 and it isnt better

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 2:44 pm on Dec 21, 2020
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