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QB development: Oklahoma could have its 3rd Heisman winning QB in 5 years this season.

Author: Irishize (1259 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 5:45 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Lincoln Riley is a genius at turning out great QBs. If he had Tyler Buchner, he would do the same with him. There would be none of the usual liitany of caveats: he only played one season in high school; he's had a problem with mechanics in the past; he was injured before; and we don't want to throw him to the wolves too soon.

The huge difference is coaching: Lincoln Riley is a QB whisperer; Brian Kelly is a QB Terminator.


Replies to: QB development: Oklahoma could have its 3rd Heisman winning QB in 5 years this season.


Thread Level: 2

Playing in a very weak league really helps

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2492 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:44 pm on Apr 10, 2021
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Lincoln Smiley is not all that.

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There are lots of programs out there, get help.

Author: Frankx (1194 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 6:46 pm on Apr 7, 2021
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Yep, these QBs have all been so successful, when leaving the program for another school or NFL

Author: cubsfanin16 (1589 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Apr 7, 2021
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Buchner wouldn’t start for Oklahoma for his first 2 years

Author: CC72 (16033 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 9:29 am on Apr 7, 2021
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Kyler Murray and his Heisman season: While Murray was a top recruit out of Allen (Texas) High School — where he went 43-0 as a starter and won three state championships — he struggled in a muddled quarterback situation at Texas A&M and then sat out a year after transferring to OU. He spent last season as the Mayfield’s backup, only throwing 21 passes. He wasn’t officially named Oklahoma’s starter until Aug. 22.

Baker Mayfield played a year for Texas Tech and then sat out a year before starting for Oklahoma so he was in his third year of college when he became their starter.


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And none of them will have started for OU as a true freshman.

Author: Napoleon (3936 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Apr 6, 2021
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And if Buchner was playing for Riley, the fact that he only played one season of HS football (against low level competition) and hasn't played in a year and a half would keep him from starting at OU as a true freshman. You have to know that.

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OU recruits top guys, they got Caleb Williams, Riley isn't dipping low like Kelly

Author: holybull101 (7160 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:44 pm on Apr 6, 2021
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Buchner was higher rated than OU’s 2018 and 2020 QBs.

Author: Napoleon (3936 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Apr 6, 2021
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It’s beside the point, though.

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Can’t wait till Big Game works on his mechanics.

Author: whatsamataU (19323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:20 am on Apr 7, 2021
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Oh, yeah. We all know you'll be pulling for the kid to fail.

Author: Napoleon (3936 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 10:13 am on Apr 7, 2021
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Hopefully he succeeds. But you might get your chance to chortle. No sure things.

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“Hopefully” , more than just hopefully...

Author: whatsamataU (19323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Apr 7, 2021
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Lincoln Riley recruited them he has a good track record, just like Weis had, Kelly does not

Author: holybull101 (7160 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:59 pm on Apr 6, 2021
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Who else

Author: whatsamataU (19323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Apr 7, 2021
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Sort of.

Author: Napoleon (3936 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 8:03 am on Apr 7, 2021
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Riley got them to OU. But his 2 Heisman QBs transferred to OU, after being recruited to and playing at other programs, as did Jalen Hurts. But, again, it is beside the point. What I’m saying here in response to irishize is that even with Riley’s tutelage, it would be extremely unlikely Buchner would start as a true freshman.

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Not one CFB coach is a “genius”. Do you understand how the Heisman is actually awarded?

Author: BaronVonZemo (33900 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:18 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Fact development:

Author: Irishrealist (69 Posts - Joined: Dec 30, 2019)

Posted at 9:58 am on Apr 6, 2021
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How many NC’s did they win? How many playoff games were they in? /

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In Playoffs: Twice as many appearances as ND.(4) Never out of Semis (Like ND). Have had a couple of

Author: TakethetrainKnute (23251 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 am on Apr 6, 2021
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more competitive games. (Most notably double OT vs. Georgia.)

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You shoud make your handle Rileyeyes and take your business to this web site until ND hires Riley

Author: CC72 (16033 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 9:28 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Come back when you get a coach you don't need to continually bash.

Link: https://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/

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Kelly destroyed Phil Jurkovec and I don't want the same to happen to Buchner.

Author: Irishize (1259 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 9:59 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Kelly says he wants two things:
1. To graduate his players
2. To win national championships

The latter is not going to happen with PineCone. It " could " happen with Buchner, but he's not getting a fair chance.

Meritocracy supersedes all, or at least, it should.


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Kelly plays QBs who give ND a lesser chance to win?

Author: irishone (1303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Apr 7, 2021
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BS, big game molded him into what he was. His mechanics were all wrong when he recruited him...

Author: whatsamataU (19323 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 am on Apr 7, 2021
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( sarcasm) .

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Thread Level: 4

Again I'll ask, have you ever seen Buchner play?

Author: ND521 (6174 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Apr 6, 2021
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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No he didn’t. Jurkovic makes bad reads consistently.

Author: BaronVonZemo (33900 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:20 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Phil's in a 12 step rehab program at BC to undo BK's damage.

Author: Irishize (1259 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 10:48 am on Apr 6, 2021
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Buchner is transferring?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (23251 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:35 am on Apr 6, 2021
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