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“21 years of Notre Dame Football recruiting results“,

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:30 am on Jun 28, 2022
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Link: https://www.onefootdown.com/notre-dame-football-recruiting-news-recruits-national-signing-day/2022/6/27/23185013/21-years-of-notre-dame-football-recruiting-results-cfb-5-star-top-100-nd-blue-chip-ratio-news

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Thread Level: 2

Kelly was one lazy ass recruiter.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:31 am on Jun 28, 2022
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Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 3

For $95 million…he’s now grinding his ass against recruits…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:28 am on Jun 29, 2022
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Thread Level: 3

Developing diamonds in the rough cannot compare to 4 & 5 stars in large numbers.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:22 pm on Jun 28, 2022
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His recruiting at LSU right now is not going to sit well with LSU fans. Was he lazy or just didn't

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:45 am on Jun 28, 2022
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have an interest in recruiting? Perhaps he was so arrogant and safe as to just assume he could turn lower classes into champions with no issue if he didn't. A watered down schedule certainly gave him a lot of cover.

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Thread Level: 4

LSU fans remind me so much of the UW fans of 17 years ago. It took them 2 years to realize.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Jun 28, 2022
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It’s early, Bama’s 22nd and we are 2nd. It’s early

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Jun 28, 2022
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Thread Level: 4

All of the above

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:33 am on Jun 28, 2022
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His method didn't change much from his Cincinnati model. While he did pick from a richer talent pool at ND compared to what he was getting at Cincy, there were many prime recruits that he simply didn't bother going after, and it's a good bet that some of them would have come to ND if he would have made an honest effort. Or, he would simply prefer to stick with "his guys" over the more talented player.

He did bring in a fair amount of higher level talent, just not the wealth of riches in upper 4 star and 5 star talent that tOSU, Alabama, etc., would rake in. A lot of those guys did play meaningful minutes.

That plus at Cincy and ND, his greatest strength was taking unheralded 3 star players, and coaching them up to play like 4 or 5 star players, squeezing every last bit out of them. When you look at players such as Julian Love, Nick Martin, Ian Book, Jeremaiah Owusu-Koramoah, etc., and how they played way beyond their projected potential, there's no denying that he was one of the best in the nation at this aspect.

All of the above were good enough to turn his teams into top 10 contenders, but getting over that next hump simply wasn't going to happen under him. The pure talent levels when you compare Alabama, tOSU, and Clemson (during their better years) shows why those guys could regularly contend for the national title, instead of the next highest tier. While there was always a small chance we could hope to pull off an upset (such as in 2020 against a very fine Clemson team), that would require a nearly flawless game on our part, and a big stumbling or misfortune on the other team's part. That's not going to happen on a regular basis if you hope to break even with those teams, much less win two or three of those games in a row.

We got lucky against Clemson in 2020. They were missing several prime defensive players, which allowed us to put on probably the best offensive performance ever in the history of Brian Kelly's tenure here. To put it bluntly, our first stringers had the games of their lives, and were better that day, against many of Clemson's second stringers.

Once those guys returned for the ACC championship game, we got badly exposed.


Thread Level: 3

He's lucky he had assistants willing to do the leg work and sales pitches

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 am on Jun 28, 2022
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Some, though, were even lazier (Van Gorder).

There were many a blue chipper who we could have had, if Brian Kelly had at least met them half way.

It's a stark contrast with Marcus Freeman, where he's relentless, and does his own legwork.


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