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Source on Notre Dame: "It's really unsustainable to be an independent now."

Author: faircatchcorby (9743 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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Re: Source on ND: "Independence is the only way to stay competitive."

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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CFB has never been in this situation. Nobody knows what's sustainable.

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I sense ND will be exiting college football in 5-10 years.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4604 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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The actions necessary to be competitive are diverging from the mission of the University. Swarbrick said as much a few months back—it’s just happening faster than he predicted. (See link)

Link: https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2022/04/23/notre-dame-jack-swarbrick-division-1-change

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What was Knute's mission when he took us touring the country?

Author: Curly1918 (16156 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:53 am on Jul 5, 2022
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We delude oursleves to disregard our roots.

Imagine ND if we'd never become the Fighting Irish.

Name another significant Catholic Unuversity other than the Heathan Hoyas.


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I think Swarbrick is right. Also interesting to think public schools could implement his approach

Author: LanceManion (7642 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:28 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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And effectively operate either directly or through a licensing scheme a purely for-profit enterprise that has no connection to the university.

Do we really need a second pro football league?


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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Second? This would be the fourth; NFL, USFL, XFL

Author: kgirish (713 Posts - Joined: Sep 16, 2019)

Posted at 10:53 am on Jul 5, 2022
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Hallelujah!

Author: MAS (21321 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:42 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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ND won't leave college football, but, hopefully, it will leave the NCAA. I've said it for many years: ND, Stanford, BC, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Duke (football), the Service Academies, Rice, and possibly BYU should form a conference of schools that still want to have athletes who are actual students. The way it's looking now, it should be its own league.

Thread Level: 4

so a club sport?

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16166 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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No. Scholarship sport.

Author: MAS (21321 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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I would love someone to provide a moral justification for ND becoming an outright football factory, divorced from the University in every other way. To satisfy the sports bros ?

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just because others do it doesn’t mean ND has to replicate. ND can maintain its mission and still

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16166 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:41 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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compete.

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I'll take Jack's analysis at this point. The choice will have to be made.

Author: MAS (21321 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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His reasoning seems sound. And you'd have to be an idiot to think the NIL scheme is sustainable. Actually, you would have had to have been an idiot or a social justice warrior (but then I repeat myself) to think it was sustainable before it was launched.

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5 on 5,

Author: whatsamataU (25115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:13 pm on Jul 4, 2022
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