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In a case of Irony... Was it not also North Carolina that Book made a statement that he should be

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Sep 25, 2022
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the rightful QB in 2017? In the rain, if I recall correctly.

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@Wake Forest I think.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:39 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Book taking over was a lot about other QBs making the statement that they shouldn't be the QB at ND.

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 7:08 am on Sep 26, 2022
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"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
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Book was given the OPPORTUNITY as a result of Wimbush not playing up to par ....

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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Book won the starting job as a result of his OWN play!

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Yes.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:11 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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What's your take on why the coaches could not see this the prior Spring?

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:50 am on Sep 26, 2022
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They probably wanted the bigger, stronger, faster, more talented QB with the stronger arm to be

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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QB. Then they realize that their development has been terrible. They might have actually regressed once they got to ND. So, they have to go with the shorter, smaller guy with the weaker arm and less athleticism who was intended to back up the more highly talented guy.

We recruit PJ and Crist but end up with Rees and Book and Pyne. None of those three have anywhere near the ceiling necessary to seriously compete for a NC.


"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
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I want $10 millions is basically what you just said. If that's what you want (coach) go get it. But

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:13 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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the reality is you have to play with the best players on your roster. The ones that actually play the best. Not the ones that do the drills or look the best on paper. I understand the premise of your analysis here but if this is how things are actually working we are screwed and will never win a NC again.

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I can't disagree with the lack of development part. Jeez. It's been bad for sure.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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1 star or 5 stars ... don't matter. I don't think anyone ever improved significantly while most regressed in an obvious way.

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U left out accuracy as requirement for a QB. Not

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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Important in yr world? Name a good one that wasn't accurate

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Wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list. Point is that they didn't want to go with the low-ceiling guy

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 2:44 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
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I'm always opposed to going with the guy that gives me the most wins too. I get it.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:15 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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My point is, a bigger,stronger, faster guy without accuracy is not a QB

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:53 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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Exactly. And we've seen that time and time again at ND with the QB. Whoever is picking the #1 guys

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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has no idea what a QB needs to look like or how they need to play the game. They seem to be literally looking at paper characteristics and not evaluating based on real proven talent.

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Irish Spring tends to conceal certain areas that might stink...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33387 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:21 am on Sep 26, 2022
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That is a very profound comment.

Author: ELP (9320 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:44 am on Sep 26, 2022
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I do remember our office exploding, but don’t recall details

Author: Indy24Irish (297 Posts - Joined: Sep 18, 2022)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Sep 25, 2022
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Actually had the same exact thought/memory before yesterdays game.

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Yep. #few

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:50 am on Sep 26, 2022
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Sure. If you consider throwing for < 150 yards and more INTs than TDs a statement.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Sep 25, 2022
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That along with his 54% completions proved he was the rightful starting QB.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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Still blinded by the wrong stats. It was about moving from an uncohesive, 1 dimensional offense. To

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:49 am on Sep 26, 2022
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one that used its weapons in a more distributed manner to create multiple issues for the defense to focus on. Not just one or two.

The OL began to gel. Third downs became less of an issue, and we were consistently getting better. We begain to consistenly move the chains and the 3 or 4 and outs drastically declined. All of those things were not happening leading up to that point.


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You're an idiot. They did the opposite of move on. They went right back to starting Wimbush.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:12 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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Since he went on to be the winning best QB in the

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:35 pm on Sep 25, 2022
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history of the school, he must has convinced somebody that he was the right man for the job

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And he did it through his play by getting an offense to go from 1 dimensional to multi dimensional.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:53 am on Sep 26, 2022
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Not on that day he sure as Hell didn't.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:24 am on Sep 26, 2022
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His "statement" game for why he should be the starter was 11 games later in 2018 against Wake Forest. You could argue it was 7 games later when he came in to relieve Wimbush against LSU and made that late pass to Boykin for the winning TD. I'd still say it was Wake though.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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Wonder what the end of the first day of the Rome rebuild looked like? It was at its peak I assume,

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:52 am on Sep 26, 2022
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based on your use of logic here?

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Hey genius. How exactly did he make "statement"?

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:09 pm on Sep 26, 2022
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I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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