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In defense of Jack he did upgrade ND compared to Dr White

Author: DonMiller (3065 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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Link: https://www.irishamerica.com/2017/03/hall-of-fame-dr-kevin-white-2/

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That didn’t take much.

Author: whatsamataU (25115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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He and Jenks are two of the most vacuous people I've ever met. Pedants.

Author: Hensou (7944 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:37 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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Yes. He did a good job overall imo.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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He's overseen more National Championships than any other AD.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:12 am on Jun 9, 2023
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The list of positives is too long to mention. Was he perfect? No. Could we have done better? Not likely.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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We all yearn for a football natl title but overall, he leaves athletic dept in very good shape.

Author: cubsfanin16 (5480 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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New facilities, transitioned well from Weis, maintained independence when it seemed very unlikely..

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:39 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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....my biggest hang up with him was:
1) the very lawyerly, and carefully crafted CYA responses to the Declan Sullivan tragedy - and then the family showed him what it means to be a Christian and a Notre Dame family.
2) He should have fired Kelly in 2016 and did not.


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I'd add a third: He was taken by surprise by Kelly's departure and should not have been...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33384 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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I'll add a fourth: He should have closed Andy Ludwig

Author: Chrisb (16376 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Crossroads abomination and Sullivan Death speak volumes about Savvy.

Author: Hensou (7944 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:02 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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I think he grew from the Sullivan’s example whereas it doesn’t seem that Kelly did.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:06 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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Jack lawyered his way through the Sullivan situation.

Author: Hensou (7944 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:08 am on Jun 9, 2023
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The Khmer Rouge weren’t so bad compared to the Nazis

Author: Nigel Tufnel (7976 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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White is the lowest of bars

Author: D2 (7646 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:08 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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A pink hippo would have been better than White.

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Lower than wadsworth?

Author: DonMiller (3065 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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You really think these guys operated on their own?

Author: whatsamataU (25115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:58 am on Jun 9, 2023
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Wadsworth can rot in Hell

Author: ndunabomber (6408 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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The way he pushed Lou out was disgraceful, along with negotiating the shitty bowl deals.

Had he simply let Lou do what he did best, you would have seen at least 1 or 2 more NC's during a much longer Lou Holtz era.

Anyone who believes that Lou retired because he wanted to preserve Knute Rockne's record is welcome to buy some of that oceanfront property in Arizona that I have.


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yep

Author: D2 (7646 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Jun 8, 2023
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