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Did we overrate Elko?

Author: murph78 (1929 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:44 am on Sep 1, 2024
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MF is now 2-0 on the road against him. His offense looked flat, and never figured out an answer for our secondary. Disappointed A$M “fans” are already calling for his replacement because of his play-calling on that 4th quarter fourth-and-two call. He did a great job at Duke, but maybe he is not a big game coach.

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No.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:36 pm on Sep 1, 2024
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I would say no.

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:51 am on Sep 1, 2024
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The ND defense is simply better than his. And our offense was a little better also.

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Elko isn't overrated

Author: ndunabomber (6476 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:45 am on Sep 1, 2024
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He has proven that he's a winner at every stop.

Even though his stay at ND was just one year as a defensive coordinator, he took what everyone thought was a terrible pool of Brian Van Gorder players (62 out of 128 teams), and turned them into a good to very good defense (31st out of 130 teams), all while elevating the talent already in place by a big margin. Clark Lea ended up inheriting a solid group of players, and went on to be one of our best DC's in recent history.

He did something similar at Texas A&M as their defensive coordinator, flipping them from having the 87th ranked defense, to the 19th ranked defense, and kept their defense performing at a solid level his entire time, even having the 3rd best defense in 2021. If anything, his being hired is what saved Jimbo Fisher from getting terminated earlier.

He turned around a Duke team that had a really terrible year (caused Cutcliffe to retire) and turned them around, making them a bowl team in 2022 and 2023.


That's not a coincidence. That shows an excellent mind for coaching. Had we hired him in 2022 as a replacement for the purple faced one, I would have been quite happy (don't get me wrong; I'm very happy with the Freeman hire).

He just happened to run into one of the best defenses in all of college football yesterday, against a very good up and coming coach. I'm sure that having a quarterback being struck with heat exhaustion (projectile vomitting twice on the sidelines) didn't help either, since he couldn't complete a pass in 4Q.

There are better days ahead for Mike Elko, and I'll be happy when he turns that program around in its entirety.


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How does either game make him overrated?

Author: jakers (13891 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:21 am on Sep 1, 2024
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We had far more talent than Duke. And the Aggies were a 7-win team last year while we won 10, and this is his first year there.

We should expect a solid coach to win those games for N.D.


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No

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8035 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:19 am on Sep 1, 2024
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He is a winner. Witness his one year at ND, the job he did as the DC at TAMU, he miracle turnaround at Duke. He has the resources of a program that is willing to pay a coach $70M or so to leave. He will do fine.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Or maybe we were just the better team and he got out-everythinged?

Author: faircatchcorby (9810 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:34 am on Sep 1, 2024
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Elko didn't make the play call on the 4th and 2 play

Author: McIrish (5322 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:22 am on Sep 1, 2024
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He has an offensive coordinator who calls the play.

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Or maybe, just like at FSU, Jimbo left a talented team and terrible culture.

Author: Clem (1883 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 9:16 am on Sep 1, 2024
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Culture is not something you can change over night.

He'll take some lumps, but he'll get them tightened up eventually because he's a really good coach.


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He is excellent. It took a miracle for ND to beat Duke last year.

Author: KWIRISH (2012 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 am on Sep 1, 2024
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A&M is in excellent hands. He is also a very good recruiter.

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This is truth.

Author: faircatchcorby (9810 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:35 am on Sep 1, 2024
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Elko will be alright....remember, this team needs to learn how to win ala Holtz' 1st season at ND.

Author: NEPA Irish (929 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2009)

Posted at 8:52 am on Sep 1, 2024
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It's 1 game. He'll be fine. Our O didn't look like wold beaters either.

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:51 am on Sep 1, 2024
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What?

Author: Frankx (5317 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 10:29 am on Sep 1, 2024
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Our?.

Author: irish93 (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 9:41 am on Sep 1, 2024
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