QB Data > Opinions. QBR definitely tells a story
+ Angeli has played real minutes in about four ND games: TN ST '23, PITT '23, Ore St '23, and PUR '24, His QBR avg is 94.2 and he has 8 TDs with 0 INTs in 46 pass attempts for 554 yards (12yd avg). Overall, 9TDs 1 pick
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/4685694/type/college/year/2023
+ Leonard on the other hand has played in three ND games: His QBR avg is 63.1 and he has has 0 TDs with 2 INTs in 78 pass attempts for 433 yards (5.5yd avg). Overall, 0TDs 2 picks.
Career QBR 59.57 (removing FR yr 69.43) - This is exactly the type of play we've watched. The same for Hartman. It's seems to be a reliable indicator more than our opinions.
+ Sam Hartman in 2023 had a QBR of 75.5 and 24TDs and 8 picks.
Career QBR 69.50, again about the level of play we saw.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4361994/type/college
+ Ian Book career QBR 76.85
ND's all-time winningest QB and second most yards
+ Brady Quinn career QBR 73.9 (only a QBR for SR yr, RTG for others)
ND's all-time leader by yards
+ Tommy Rees career QBR 67.15
ND's 4th all-time leader by yards and ranks in the top five in 21 different single-game, single-season or career passing categories
+ Jimmy Clausen career QBR 50.50
ND's 3rd all-time leader by yards
Replies to: QB Data > Opinions. QBR definitely tells a story
Facts matter. Thank you oldirish.
RL should not be starting
Agreed, oldirish has been right much more than wrong
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If it was up me, the Riley Leonard era would be over. I’d start CJ Carr, and absorb a few mistakes.
I believe he is the only one that can win multiple playoff games. I’d take a few lumps with him so that he gets valuable PT. Angeli can be the backup.
At this point RL has played less than 4 games, so he can maybe play elsewhere next year.
I'd rather that the offensive line shore up first
I agree with a lot of what you said. I simply would prefer that the line be better developed before putting him in the starting spot.
Right now, we have a lot of younger underclassmen starting, and while the talent looks good, they're still making some green mistakes.
Re: If it was up me, the Riley Leonard era would be over. I’d start CJ Carr, and absorb a few mistakes.
I agree…though for at least a few games I might play Angeli to start games and get a lead…at least against the lesser competition…..then let Carr jump in to get more live experience.
Same.
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